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From: chris@minnie.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.misc
Subject: Re: Poor People/Lazy People
Message-ID: <283@minnie.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 10-Oct-86 02:47:49 EDT
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Posted: Fri Oct 10 02:47:49 1986
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Reply-To: chris@minnie.UUCP (Chris Grevstad)
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gadfly@ihlpa.UUCP says:
>--
>>chris@minnie.UUCP (Chris Grevstad) adds:
>>>Hear hear!!!  Where people get the notion that someone has a claim on my
>>>wealth only by virtue of being a member of the same society I will never
>>>know.
>>>
>>>I have no problems helping those who really need help, but I refuse to
>>>finance the activities of those who have no interest in helping themselves.
>>
>>I second both motions...
>>I still see the same people in the same projects,
>>on the same welfare, "help wanted" signs notwithstanding.  (BTW, this 
>>is in a part of the country where one *can* live on minimum wage.  At
>>one point, my friends said I was crazy for spending $310/month for a 
>>one-bedroom apartment.)
>>
>>-Ed Horch
>
>The question is not whether these shiftless and lazy (didn't you forget
>"dirty"?) folks have a claim on your wealth.  The question is whether
>you have obligations to people you don't even know.  If you've got
>any semblance of ethics in your yuppie, designer brains you know that
>you *do* have such obligations.  So spare me your lookin'-out-for-ol'-
>number-one pseudo-moral pseudo-outrage.  If those unwashed low-lifes
>knew how lame you are they'd murder you in your sleep.
>

Give me a break!!!  To quote (in case you have a hard time reading):

>>chris@minnie.UUCP (Chris Grevstad) adds:
>>>I have no problems helping those who really need help, but I refuse to
>>>finance the activities of those who have no interest in helping themselves.

Ken, Ken.  Are you seriously suggesting that we continue to support people
who have no interest in working?  I'm not referring to those that are unable
for some reason, but those that just don't want to; those that find it easier
to collect public dollars than to put in a day's work (much less a week's or
a year's work).  I'm sorry, Ken, existence alone is not justification enough
to be on the dole.  If you think otherwise, then you're welcome to pay my
'share' as well.

As an aside, how DOES this man come up with these brilliant insights into
my character? :-) He must use some crystal ball that we mere mortals haven't
access to.

>                       ... your yuppie, designer brains ...
>                                       ...   your lookin'-out-for-ol'-
>number-one pseudo-moral pseudo-outrage.  ...

With all your labelling, Ken, I don't think you could recognize a moral
imperative if it punched you in the nose (much less murdered you in your
sleep).  (Gad! Where is net.flame when you need it?????)

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	Chris Grevstad
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