Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cuae2!ihnp4!qantel!ptsfa!ptsfd!djo From: djo@ptsfd.UUCP (Dan'l Oakes) Newsgroups: net.misc Subject: Re: humanity Message-ID: <502@ptsfd.UUCP> Date: Sun, 12-Oct-86 15:03:25 EDT Article-I.D.: ptsfd.502 Posted: Sun Oct 12 15:03:25 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 13-Oct-86 05:45:20 EDT References: <1111@kontron.UUCP> <1182@cybvax0.UUCP> <1120@kontron.UUCP> Reply-To: djo@ptsfd.UUCP (Dan'l Oakes) Distribution: net Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA Lines: 25 In article <1120@kontron.UUCP> cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes: > >You have a valid point IF the coercive redistribution of income applied only >to a minority of the population, and IF you fail to distinguish between >criminal actions (i.e. aggressing against others) and non-aggressive behavior >(making money). > And you, in turn, have a valid point IF you accept that making money is a fortiori a non-aggressive action. In particular, the stance required is that making money in excess of the needs of yourself -- and, of course, your dependents (if any) for the necessities of life (food, clothing, shelter, education, and a basic level of recreation) is a non-aggressive action. In personal terms, that is to say "My need for a new VCR takes precedence over any desire I may have to see that fellow over there fed," and to feel that this is not in any way an act of aggression against that-fellow-over-there. I am not claiming that this an unethical stance; however, to deny that this is in essence what you are saying, Mr Cramer, when you categorically define the making (and, implicitly, the keeping) of money as "non-aggressive behavior" -- to deny this would be simply lying to yourself: bad faith. Gomen nasai. Dan'l Danehy-Oakes