Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!tektronix!reed!jeanne From: jeanne@reed.UUCP Newsgroups: net.misc,misc.misc Subject: Re: Poor People/Lazy People Message-ID: <4274@reed.UUCP> Date: Mon, 13-Oct-86 07:32:21 EDT Article-I.D.: reed.4274 Posted: Mon Oct 13 07:32:21 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 13-Oct-86 19:13:30 EDT References: <1010@cad.cs.cmu.edu> <1050001@hpspkla.HP.COM> Reply-To: jeanne@reed.UUCP (Jeanne A. E. DeVoto) Distribution: na Organization: Reed's Fine College Lines: 30 In article <2021@ihlpa.UUCP> gadfly@ihlpa.UUCP (Gadfly) writes: The question is not whether these shiftless and lazy (didn't you forget "dirty"?) folks have a claim on your wealth. The question is whether you have obligations to people you don't even know. If you've got any semblance of ethics in your yuppie, designer brains you know that you *do* have such obligations. [...] to which someone responded: Why not let us in on what _your_ ethical system is that demands this obligation? I'm not arguing the obligation; I am curious to hear to your justification. in response, gadfly says: *My* ethical system that demands "this obligation"? You say this as if it had to be some bizarre cultist dogma. I'm a Jew, and my religion specifies 613 obligations in some detail.[etc] Correct me if i'm wrong, but you seem to imply that anyone with any sense of ethics in their yuppie, designer brains is a Jew (or at least acknowledges these 613 specific obligations of which you speak). The person who responded (and me) is asking not why you feel that *you* have these obligations, but why you feel that they are self-evident to anyone WASOEITYDB, and whence comes your right to impose said obligations by force on one who does not share your view of them. -- jeanne a. e. devoto | "The mind is an infinite resource...but ...!tektronix!reed!jeanne | only if you don't squander it." USsnail: 5353 SE 28th #38 | Portland, OR 97202 | James Hogan, "Voyage From Yesteryear"