Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 GARFIELD 20/11/84; site garfield.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!utai!garfield!dave From: dave@garfield.UUCP Newsgroups: net.news Subject: Re: How to Defeat the Backbone Cabal in your Spare Time Message-ID: <2762@garfield.UUCP> Date: Thu, 16-Oct-86 07:25:18 EDT Article-I.D.: garfield.2762 Posted: Thu Oct 16 07:25:18 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 17-Oct-86 01:44:06 EDT References: <2633@garfield.UUCP> <2129@curly.ucla-cs.ARPA> Sender: news@garfield.UUCP Reply-To: dave@garfield.UUCP (David Janes) Distribution: world Organization: Semi-Optimal Software Solutions (Inc.) Lines: 35 In article <2129@curly.ucla-cs.ARPA> occ4mgk@oac.ucla.edu, cc1@LOCUS.UCLA.EDU (Michael Gersten) writes: | This is not quite right. Most sites do not control WHO posts; it is | not the site that posts, it is the user. ... Nonsense, every site has at least some say in what the users do, because it is the site (meaning, the adminstrators) who let the users use the machine. `Write' access to the net can be restricted only to certain users. In fact we do this here at my site. | If you charge the users, then | suddenly usenet is completely silent. If you charge all sites, then | suddenly most sites become listen only. Either one totally changes the | current net. That's what we need to do now - change the net. You are only charging the user (or site) for what they post - if they do not post, they do not pay (well, they still pay some other costs for getting other messages to their site, but that is no worse than normal). | As an example, I (and a friend) are trying to get our machines | onto the net. We are willing to pay a little for this, but if we had to | pay $50-$150 per month, we would not. Most leaf sites would not. The | result? A much lower trafic bill--and much fewer sites. Well someone is paying that money, and currently it is the backbones. If you wish to post $50-$150 (gives you back $100? :-) of articles a month - which is a *lot* of articles, well maybe you should be the one paying for it. No one has the divine right to post articles on USENET. dave -- .o.o. The UUCP: {utcsri,ihnp4,allegra,philabs}!garfield!dave .:O:. Mercenary CDNNET: David Janes .o.o. Programmer "Well, do ya?"