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From: per@erix.UUCP (Per Hedeland)
Newsgroups: net.unix,net.unix-wizards
Subject: Re: Automatic unattended execution of 'dump' ?
Message-ID: <1167@erix.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 24-Sep-86 05:17:17 EDT
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Posted: Wed Sep 24 05:17:17 1986
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In article <3528@umcp-cs.UUCP> chris@umcp-cs.UUCP (Chris Torek) writes:
>If your root shell is /bin/sh, you could then put this in /.profile:
>
>	PATH=/bin:/etc; export PATH
>	if [ -f /etc/autodump ]; then
>		sh /etc/autodump
>		rm -f /etc/autodump
>		exit 0
>	fi
>	# rest of /.profile

>You can then have cron copy a script to /etc/autodump and run
>shutdown.  When the machine goes to single user mode, the shell
>will read .profile or .cshrc and run autodump, then remove the
>script and exit, bringing the machine back up in multi-user mode.

Actually, you will find that the shell does not *exit* when encountering
'exit' in .profile or .cshrc, it merely starts reading from the terminal.
Replacing 'rm -f ...' with 'exec rm -f ...' will have the desired effect.
(This is on 4.2, which ought to be relevant since the question was on Ultrix.)

>This, like all unattended dump schemes, can run into one problem:
>Dumps do not always succeed.  If the dump fails, dump will attempt
>to get help; this too will fail, and I am not certain just what
>will happen after that.  It should be easy enough to find out: just
>leave the tape drive off line and force a run.

In 4.2, dump will ask for the help from /dev/tty (and keep asking forever(?),
hanging the system in single user). If /dev/tty can't be opened, dump just
quits - i.e. running dump from a little program that takes away the 
controlling terminal (via TIOCNOTTY) is a good idea.

We have used essentially this scheme for a long time; it works fine
(although there are a couple of additional minor details to consider).

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Per Hedeland
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