Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site onfcanim.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watnot!watcgl!onfcanim!dave From: dave@onfcanim.UUCP (Dave Martindale) Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards,net.unix Subject: DH11 history Message-ID: <14938@onfcanim.UUCP> Date: Sun, 28-Sep-86 20:35:46 EDT Article-I.D.: onfcanim.14938 Posted: Sun Sep 28 20:35:46 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Sep-86 08:04:06 EDT References: <59@houligan.UUCP> <1183@ncr-sd.UUCP> <7155@utzoo.UUCP> Reply-To: dave@onfcanim.UUCP (Dave Martindale) Organization: National Film Board / Office national du film, Montreal Lines: 23 Xref: watmath net.unix-wizards:19701 net.unix:9389 Summary: In article <7155@utzoo.UUCP> henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) writes: > >My understanding is slightly different, based on some DEC documentation >of the time. The problem was not that DHs were too fancy for RSX, but >that DHs were too expensive and too bulky for a lot of people who wanted >terminal multiplexors. A Dec DH was a 9-slot backplane full of boards, >and cost accordingly. The point of the DZ was to capture the minimum >necessary features in a much cheaper implementation. Actually, a *modern* DH11 is just a 9-slot backplane, plus a distribution panel with 16 DB25 connectors. The *original* DH11 didn't have any of the RS232 interface logic included in its backplane. Instead, there were a couple of cables that ran TTL signals to another backplane, of about 24 slots, with its *own* rack-mounted power supply. This backplane had 16 slots into which you plugged individual level-converter cards, either current loop, RS232 data only, or RS232 with modem control. The ultimate in flexibility (and expense). But by the time the DZ11 came out, it must have been possible to bring out a newly-redesigned DH11 that was much more competitive in cost. When did the Able and Emulex DH emulators appear? (True, they don't handle *all* the modem control a real DH does, but they're sure better than a DZ).