Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!rutgers!topaz!chandros From: chandros@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (Jonathan A. Chandross) Newsgroups: sci.math,sci.physics Subject: Analog models of computation Message-ID: <6241@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Wed, 15-Oct-86 18:38:45 EDT Article-I.D.: topaz.6241 Posted: Wed Oct 15 18:38:45 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 15-Oct-86 21:57:21 EDT Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 37 Keywords: String Art, Why it's bad Xref: mnetor sci.math:3 sci.physics:9 /* Message-ID: <8195@watrose.UUCP> From: rpjday@watrose.UUCP (rpjday) */ ##> I am interested in collecting examples of problems in the area of ##>computation that are generally acknowledged to be reasonably to ##>obscenely difficult using the digital computer model, but which have ##>simple elegant solutions if one was allowed to construct some form ##>of "analog" computer. ##> As an example, the problem of finding the shortest path between two ##>points in a graph is easily solved if one is allowed to build a string ##>model of the graph, then pick it up by the source node, and measure the ##> distance straight down to the target node. I'm sure everyone is familiar The technique you are referring to is called "rubber banding." While workable for small problems, the method degrades quite substantially for large(r) problems. The problem of finding a shortest path for, say 1000 cities, will degrade to such an extent that one of the known heuristics, running on a digital computer, will outperform the analog version, both in accuracy and in time. The main reason that analog computing no longer flourishes is a result of 1) inaccuracy in calculations, and 2) difficulty in scaling models. Hopfield and Tank have come up with some amazing results for neural networks computing TSP (travelling salesmen problem). But it is very difficult to make the networks very large, and the component tolerence is not terrific. Fractional percent errors add up quickly. However, the topic is extremely interesting. People have built the seive of Erasthostenes (badly mangled spelling) out of bicycle rims and wire, and matrix multipliers out of (fundamentally) oatmeal boxes. Perhaps the topic could be expanded to bizarre analog computation in general?? Jonathan Chandross allegra!topaz!chandross