Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!columbia!rutgers!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!jade!ruby!dean From: dean@ruby.berkeley.edu Newsgroups: sci.misc Subject: Fluids and solids (was Re: H-less liquids) Message-ID: <1454@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Wed, 15-Oct-86 13:33:51 EDT Article-I.D.: jade.1454 Posted: Wed Oct 15 13:33:51 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 16-Oct-86 22:15:55 EDT References: <17@wjh12.HARVARD.EDU> <666@faron.UUCP> <18@wjh12.HARVARD.EDU> Sender: usenet@jade.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: dean@ruby.berkeley.edu (N. Dean Pentcheff) Distribution: net Organization: University of California, Berkeley Department of Zoology Lines: 24 Keywords: fluid solid viscosity deformation Summary: Definitions My understanding of the difference between a solid and a fluid comes from the engineering principles used in biomechanics. A solid is a material that deforms under load but whose original dimensions are restored when the force is removed (it demonstrates elasticity). A fluid is a material that deforms under load but whose original dimensions are _not_ restored when the force is removed (it demonstrates viscosity). In fluids, but not in solids, the particles within it translate past each other permanently under influence of an external force. An interesting thing about this definition is that it may be time-dependent for real materials: a thick solution of corn starch in water will flow if poured slowly (it's a liquid at that timescale) but shatters if hit with a hammer (in that case it's a solid). There is a continuum of behaviors from a perfectly elastic solid to a perfectly Newtonian fluid. By this definition, glass is a solid at short timescales (bend a glass rod between your hands and it springs back to its original shape) but a liquid at long timescales (large windows flow due to gravity). -Dean (dean@ruby.berkeley.edu) [The opinions expressed herein are mine, but someone else probably believes them, too.]