Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ihnp4!qantel!lll-lcc!lll-crg!seismo!ut-sally!husc6!bu-cs!bzs From: bzs@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Barry Shein) Newsgroups: soc.college Subject: Re: Accuracy in Academia Message-ID: <1339@bu-cs.bu-cs.BU.EDU> Date: Thu, 18-Sep-86 17:48:43 EDT Article-I.D.: bu-cs.1339 Posted: Thu Sep 18 17:48:43 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Sep-86 00:23:06 EDT Organization: Boston U. Comp. Sci. Lines: 29 Actually, this whole AIA issue brings up what I consider a more serious, more general issue. There seems to be, more and more, a "consumer" attitude by college students towards college. Now I suppose one could argue that college costs a lot of bucks, both in expenses and lost salary (hopefully all more than made up for in the long run), I suppose one could sue their church for not having been saved after lots of donations...But what do I say to a student who comes in to speak about a (well earned) 'F' and uses as an argument that s/he has been "ripped off" if s/he doesn't get course credit for their money? I know, we say "that was your fault, not mine", but if you think reason and logic is useful in such a situation then, well, obviously you don't deal with such situations. Worse, when they figure out they have to pay for the course again to get credit they accuse the professor of being in cahoots with the administration to steal their money (and worse.) [no dear, if we could be rid of you and your money entirely we would be very happy...] Ok, that's an extreme example (but it has happened to me), I have noticed a trend towards a similar method of evaluating courses, such as judging them only on what they would be worth dollar for dollar in landing a job later (this often comes up in an advising conversation when trying to convince a student they should take a theory course.) It's kind of sad. The merchandising of America marches on...too bad they don't realize THEY are becoming the merchandise. -Barry Shein, Boston University