Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!axiom!adelie!necntc!frog!john From: john@frog.UUCP (John Woods, Software) Newsgroups: soc.college,talk.rumors Subject: Re: Accuracy in Academia Message-ID: <1057@frog.UUCP> Date: Mon, 29-Sep-86 11:47:54 EDT Article-I.D.: frog.1057 Posted: Mon Sep 29 11:47:54 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Sep-86 21:49:42 EDT References: <15485@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <15492@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Distribution: na Organization: Superfrog Heaven [ CRDS, Framingham MA ] Lines: 43 Xref: linus soc.college:43 talk.rumors:70 > And why is it "disinformation" to ask students to think for themselves, > to invite them to go to whatever sources they like and make whatever > case they choose on the given topics? They could come to the conclusion > that the Marxist state is even more repressive than the Catholic Church, > or that modern land practices in Guatemala and Hondouras are very unlike > the European serfdom. > It isn't disinformation to ask students to think for themselves, but are you sure that this TA would consider that the conclusions listed are defensible (i.e., correct in his/her own mind?). I have sort of a similar story. At MIT, I took German from a teacher who was a Marxist (not "accused of being a Marxist", but that is his public opinion). One of the reading assignments we had was parts of Das Kapital (or possibly the Manifesto, I am no longer quite sure) -- despite the fact that the German in it was rather broken, due to Marx writing it right after living in London for several years, speaking English (this, again, is not my own opinion, but was stated by the teacher before the assignment was given). He felt it was important enough as a piece of German writing rather than for the pedagogical value (despite the fact that this was nominally a course in learning to read, write, and speak German fluently). Fortunately, he was openminded about hearing criticism of the quality of the writing, and did NOT ask us to write (in German, of course :-) long defenses (or criticisms) of the content. He was disappointed, but fortunately not angry, when I opined that I liked Freud's writing (which was also assigned) VASTLY more than Marx (the two assignments were contiguous). Freud's writing, whether or not one agrees with his conclusions, was (in my opinion) BEAUTIFULLY, WONDERFULLY lucid and clear. He was an excellent writer! The point? I'm not sure I have one. I suppose it is, some instructors do push their political viewpoints into their course material, to the detriment of the course, but not all of these force their students to agree with their viewpoints. Nevertheless, when they do this, there is a DISTINCT but subtle pressure to adopt the viewpoint that might improve your grade by making the instructor more sympathetic. -- John Woods, Charles River Data Systems, Framingham MA, (617) 626-1101 ...!decvax!frog!john, ...!mit-eddie!jfw, jfw%mit-ccc@MIT-XX.ARPA "Don't give me this intelligent life crap, just find me a planet I can blow up."