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From: lindsay@cheviot.newcastle.ac.uk (Lindsay F. Marshall)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: grooving with a pict
Message-ID: <1068@cheviot.newcastle.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 6-Oct-86 06:09:54 EDT
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Posted: Mon Oct  6 06:09:54 1986
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Reply-To: lindsay@cheviot.newcastle.ac.uk (Lindsay F. Marshall)
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In article <718@argon.idec.stc.co.uk> normanh@idec.stc.co.uk (Norman Hilton) writes:
>
>Not quite. 
>
>.......

Pedant!! You know what I meant! A large number of the terms you give are
archaic and some are pretty obnoxious - my least favourite is "Scotch Snap"
(used to describe the dotted rhythm used in a lot of Scottish music,
particularly the strathspey).

BTW "scotch" is used in the NE of England to refer to beer brewed in the
Scottish "heavy" style rather than the English "bitter" style - you
often can sometimes see startled Southerners when some asks for a "pint
of scotch". (N.B. Note that US readers may interpret this completely
erroneously as referring to a bottle of whisky)

>I agree that the use of `Scotch' as an adjective meaning `Scots'
>or `Scottish' is now frowned upon, but in the past it was quite
>acceptable.

That's what I said - Chambers (1966 edition) describes "Scotch" as "being
disliked or resented by many Scotsmen".

>I am enclined to blame the genteel people of
>Edinburgh,

Guess where I'm from.......
>but this is my personal predjudice and not based on serious investigation.

Dreadful place is'nt it.

>Perhaps we should devote more of our time to correcting those
>(expletives deleted) people who call us `English'.

Agreed, but I still hate Scotch - particularly in the expression
"Scotchman"!

>BTW why are people trying to decipher Jethro Tull lyrics on
				       !#@%!%@#!%!


You jest surely. I havennt got Umma Gumma, but am reliably informed that
the voice is perfectly ordinary Scots mumblings of the "Och aye the noo"
and "Hey Jimmy" variety.

Lindsay