Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ihnp4!ihlpg!nkg1 From: nkg1@ihlpg.UUCP (Neeraj K. Gupta) Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian Subject: Seperate Sikh State Message-ID: <2536@ihlpg.UUCP> Date: Tue, 7-Oct-86 19:32:51 EDT Article-I.D.: ihlpg.2536 Posted: Tue Oct 7 19:32:51 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 9-Oct-86 04:44:08 EDT Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 42 To: ihnp4!cbatt!clyde!caip!elbereth!rutgers!husc6!panda!genrad!mit-eddie!mit-trillian!martillo Subject: Re: An Independent Sikh State In-reply-to: your article <1232@mit-trillian.MIT.EDU> I belong to Punjab State. I and all my ancestors, as far long ago as I can know, were born in Punjab. There is a big difference comparing Muslim and Hindu, AND Sikh and Hindu religion. The Sikh religion grew out of Hindu religion. Till about 40-50 years back, it was very common for the eldest son of a Hindu family to become a Sikh. Marriage between Hindus and Sikhs is very common, even now. There are thousands of families, nay tens of thousand families, with both Hindu and Sikh blood reletives. The Sikhs and Hindus both cremate there dead and immerse the ashes in river. The marriage customs are very very similar. AND to top it all, Guru Granth Sahib, The Holy Book, is full prayers to Rama and Shiva. At one place it says, a real Sikh is he, who says the name Rama atleast 10 times every day. Visiting the Sikh Gurudwaras and Hindu temples by both communities has been very common. The reverence to Sikh Gurus is same amongst Hindus as for Sikhs. The Holy places to visit are very common, the reason being, the Sikh Gurus visited and prayed at places which were holy to Hindus at that time. The Golden Temple was built with great contribution of both Hindus and Sikhs. And I can go on and on -----. None of this is true for any other two religions. Even today the trouble or the contradictions are not over Hindus not accepting Sikh Gurus or Sikh temples but purely over political power. Some selfish people are exploting the two communities for their own selfish motive. There are many subgroups amongst Sikhs, not accepted as such by EXTREMISTS: Nirankaries, etc. Will they not ask for political power in future for themselves? Even with in the rank of extremists, has there not been group fights over who takes the higher positions ? With this kind of ideas one can fragment any land into very small communities, and call them COUNTRIES!!!??. The artificial integeration of INDIA ? Even before the English, India was joined together by one king many times, in fact it included Afghanistan and parts of USSR (Samarkand and Tashkent). Chandragupta Mauraya, Ashoka are some of the very old examples, Akbar is a later example. But then China also had its share of smaller kingdoms at times. At which time period of history do you draw the cut off point. At different times different communities ruled over various areas of land, with the same land overlapping for different communities. Who gets that land?