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From: ccrdave@ucdavis.UUCP (Lord Kahless)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.women
Subject: Re: who drives the bus nonissue?
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Date: Tue, 30-Sep-86 21:36:47 EDT
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> In article <524@ucdavis.UUCP> ccrdave@deneb.UUCP writes:
> >
> >>If they don't want to accept the state's services as is, without
> >>attempting to force them to conform to an antiquated, sexist, and illegal
> >>moral code, let them pay for it themselves.
> >
> >Here here!  The law says there should be no discrimination upon
> >the basis of sex, and I believe the law of the land is right.  Now,
> >I have learned that the women's bathrooms here at U.C. Davis have
> >a couch and a makeup table in them, while the men's rooms have
> >no such amenities.  According to the law, this is *ILLEGAL*.  Of
> >course, it's also antiquated and sexist.  Also, since this is a
> >state bathroom, state funds are used for the maintenance of the
> >couches and makeup tables.
> 
> Will somebody please tell me how the federal laws on fair hiring and
> job assignments have anything to do with bathrooms?
> 
In case nobody got the point, I meant my first posting as sarcasm.
Right now, some people are saying that one group is "antiquated and
sexist." Well, we all engage in some sexism.  Just how much depends
upon our own tastes.  Separate bath rooms, which often give one particular
sex extra amenities, is a form of discrimination.  To break down all
forms of discrimination would be to break down the bathroom walls.
By the way, I was told that a major corporation had to remove the
couches from the women's rooms, after a sexual discrimination suit
by male employees, so it isn't as ridiculous as you may think.

Maybe some of you think that's a good idea.  If you do, I'd say there's
Torah against it.  For those of you who say that there should be
separate bathrooms but not separate busses, look closely at yourself.
You've just approved a form of discrimination.  Don't be hypocritical
when another group has their own form of discrimination.

Also, is *EVERY* form of discrimination evil?  Is it really evil to
have separate bathrooms or busses?  Where is the line?
> Mikki Barry
> HASA

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