Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!rutgers!husc6!panda!genrad!decvax!tektronix!teklds!zeus!rob From: rob@dadla.tek.com (Rob Vetter;1044;92-725;LP=A;60YB) Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.women Subject: Re: who drives the bus nonissue? Message-ID: <647@zeus.UUCP> Date: Wed, 1-Oct-86 19:57:15 EDT Article-I.D.: zeus.647 Posted: Wed Oct 1 19:57:15 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Oct-86 09:15:06 EDT References: <633@mit-vax.UUCP> <3096@columbia.UUCP> Sender: rogers@zeus.UUCP Reply-To: rob@dadla.tek.com (Rob Vetter) Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR. Lines: 36 Xref: watmath soc.culture.jewish:32 soc.women:189 In article <533@ucdavis.UUCP> ccrdave@ucdavis.UUCP (Lord Kahless) writes: > > ... For those of you who say that there should be >separate bathrooms but not separate busses, look closely at yourself. >You've just approved a form of discrimination. Don't be hypocritical >when another group has their own form of discrimination. Hmmm ... every home I've been in used the same bathroom(s) for both the men and the women. Aside from PERSONAL privacy (already provided in most by stalls), I don't see sharing public facilities as a problem. I think the point being made by some of us is being missed, however. There are certain rules written and unwritten in our society that should be followed. People are allowed to practice their religion - even if most of us consider elements of that religion discriminatory. When they are in public, however, using public funds, they should follow the rules of conduct prescribed by that public. It is THEIR burden to make sure that they follow their religion. As a smoker, I'm often requested not to smoke in certain public and private places. It is NOT the burden of the requester to make sure that I get my nicotine fix. > >Also, is *EVERY* form of discrimination evil? Is it really evil to >have separate bathrooms or busses? Where is the line? Collectively, we determine which forms are right or wrong. The line is pretty fluid based on anything from todays's weather to who is in power. (Just stay away from my dis- crimination on restaurant menus :-) ) Rob Vetter (503) 629-1044 [ihnp4, ucbvax, decvax, uw-beaver]!tektronix!dadla!rob