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From: cjh@cca.UUCP (Chip Hitchcock)
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Subject: Re: who drives the bus nonissue?
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Date: Wed, 8-Oct-86 22:48:49 EDT
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>David Esan                | moscom ! de
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>Why are the Amish picturesque, and the Hassidim embarassing?
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Because the Amish keep intensely to themselves (those were Mennonites in the
movie WITNESS---the Amish would have nothing to do with anything so vain as
aappearing in a movie, even in a crowd scene), instead of demanding that the
state serve them in some special fashion. I have also been told that even
Conservative and Orthodox Jews consider the Hasidim embarassingly mystical,
in opposition to the rationalism that is a significant tradition in
]mainline[ Judaism.

It is true that historical Judaism has some interesting features which suggest
that in its original time and place Judaism was indeed relatively progressive,
specifically wrt women; there are also many facets of Judaism that have not
changed even so much as other major conservative religions have changed.

	CHip (Chip Hitchcock)		ARPA: CJH@CCA.CCA.COM
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We are just the vessel for a lot of intestynal flora---
And if we own something they will own it too.			Dave Luckett

PS: My minimal recollection of Hebrew I've sung suggests that a proper
translation of "Hasidim" is "Righteous Ones"---does that give you a cue to
attitudes?