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From: barry@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU (Mikki Barry)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.women
Subject: Re: who drives the bus nonissue?
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Date: Tue, 23-Sep-86 01:43:59 EDT
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Keywords: Why are YOU deliberately missing the point??
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In article <836@mhuxi.UUCP> dsg@mhuxi.UUCP (45281-GREEN, D, DAVID) writes:
>
>	You could have said:
> 
>"If they don't want to accept the state's services as is, let them
>pay for it themselves."
>
> 	But you did include:
>
>"... antiquated, sexist, and illegal moral code  ...".

Because that is what I feel it is.  I have expressed an opinion in a
much less inflamatory way than the Hasidim did by asking the state
to sanction sexism.

>I am totally amazed at the amount of traffic generated by this
>"nonissue", how about picking on another allegedly "sexist" group
>that might take you seriously.  Believe me, the Hasids aren't about
>to change any of their beliefs because of netnews discussions
>and the whole thing has a slight anti-semite tone, too.

Did you ever consider that the amount of traffic has been generated because
this really is an issue.  I also do not recall any posting that has
said that the Hasids should change their beliefs.  If they want to
live this way, fine.  Just don't ask me to subsidize a religious belief
that is contrary to the laws of the state involved, and contrary to
federal acts of equal opportunity in hiring and job assignment.

As for being anti-semite, I think you are reading a bit too much into this.
I am a pagan, and as such believe very strongly in religous freedom.  But
when this freedom contradicts the laws and societal mores of this country,
the religous beliefs lose.  

I could say that your postings smack of anti-women's rights, but I won't.

Mikki Barry
HASA