Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!ima!trb From: trb@ima.UUCP (Andrew Tannenbaum) Newsgroups: soc.misc Subject: Re: Down with engineerlish! Message-ID: <235@ima.UUCP> Date: Fri, 3-Oct-86 12:52:14 EDT Article-I.D.: ima.235 Posted: Fri Oct 3 12:52:14 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 8-Oct-86 05:58:51 EDT References: <741@scc.UUCP> <6128@alice.uUCp> Reply-To: trb@ima.UUCP (Andrew Tannenbaum) Organization: Interactive Systems, Boston Lines: 42 In article <6128@alice.uUCp> ark@alice.UucP (Andrew Koenig) writes: > > You're right, there is no such word in the English language as > > "functionality". > Real easy: "function" and "functionality" mean two different things. Functionality is in my dictionary. (Under functional, Webster's Ninth Collegiate Dictionary, Merriam-Webster 1983 red hardcover.) If you like, you can insist that it doesn't exist. Humor yourself. I say down with sweeping generalizations (NOT generalities). To a programmer, initialize does not mean start. To initialize means to set variables to their initial values. To a programmer, a variable isn't just a parameter or an attribute. When some haughty lexicographic irregular poo-poos something she doesn't understand (technical jargon, in this instance) just because she once saw some business woman with a three piece suit and a shmatte around her neck use the word finalize, all I can do is assume that she is complaining about something of which she knows not. Here are some ize verbs from /usr/lib/w2006. authorize capitalize characterize criticize generalize initialize minimize organize realize recognize stabilize summarize utilize They all have nouns associated with them. What arbiter of style decided that it was ok to verbize these nouns, or nounize these verbs? I hate the word finalize. (Set variables to their final values? ;-) In fact, I have never heard an engineer use the word finalize, though I have heard (pompous) engineering managers use the word, along with their whole raft of silly catch phrases. Yes, I'm generalizing. So take me to mod.legal. Yes, there are engineers who are lousy writers and communicators. But I find that engineers, with their backgrounds in problem solving, are often clear thinkers and communicators when compared to people who you'd think would be better communicators - politicians, sales, and marketing people. When a person puts down "engineerlish" without being quite specific, I just chalk it up to ignorance. Andrew Tannenbaum Interactive Boston, MA +1 617 247 1155