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From: marty@ism780c.UUCP (Marty Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.misc
Subject: Re: Words (was Re: Paging)
Message-ID: <3859@ism780c.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 13-Oct-86 13:37:59 EDT
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Posted: Mon Oct 13 13:37:59 1986
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In article <3815@umcp-cs.UUCP> chris@umcp-cs.UUCP (Chris Torek) writes:
>>In article <3736@umcp-cs.UUCP> I wrote:
>>>`Today was and will be a wonderful day, although it is presently
>>>raining'.  Without the word `presently', it means something entirely
>>>different.
>
>In article <3809@ism780c.UUCP>, marty@ism780c.UUCP (Marty Smith) writes:
>>I don't see the difference.
>
>Without `presently', `raining' applies to `it', whose referent is
>`today', implying that it has been and will continue raining even
>while the day is wonderful.  With the additional word, raining
>applies to `presently', implying that it was not raining earlier,
>and soon will stop raining.  Thus the shorter sentence might say
>that rain does not preclude wonderful days, while the longer one
>may very well say the opposite.  The implications are subtle enough
>to be overwhelmed by any contradictory context, though.
>
>Does that make sense?

To me, 'It is raining' and 'It is presently raining' have the same meaning.
The word presently is redundant.  Presently modifies raining.  If the
sentence were written, '...although it presently rains,' then the word
presently would not be redundant, I think.

						Marty Smith