Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ihnp4!qantel!lll-lcc!lll-crg!seismo!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!sei.cmu.edu!dvk From: dvk@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel Klein) Newsgroups: soc.motss Subject: Discrimination Message-ID: <352@aw.sei.cmu.edu.sei.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 22-Sep-86 11:51:05 EDT Article-I.D.: aw.352 Posted: Mon Sep 22 11:51:05 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Sep-86 19:49:28 EDT Sender: netnews@sei.cmu.edu Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, SEI, Pgh, Pa Lines: 29 Keywords: Antisemitism and homophobia As an answer to Scotty (root@ozdaltx) about my experiences with antisemitism (and I'll keep it short, as this is motss, not motjf): No, I have not really experienced a lot of overt antisemitism - certainly nothing like some of the homophopia I have been reading about here. But there is some covert opression, and I am very sensitive to it (in the sense that I am sensitive to heat - I notice it, but it rarely *bothers* me). Meeting ex-Nazi's doesn't help much. Growing up in a Roman-Catholic neighborhood doesn't either, but the latter is mostly a problem of ignorance. Having a woman say "All the Jews I've known have been cheap", and then finding out she has known a total of two, and not realized I was one of them. Getting days off for Christian holidays, and having no one in school realize that there *were* Jewish holidays ("isn't Chanukah your Christmas?"). It was made known to me that I wasn't welcome in a club because of my religious heritage (a point that I found especially annoying since I am not exactly rabbinical in appearance), and then there is the old standby, "some of my best friends are Jewish". But mostly, no, I have not been persecuted as a Jew. Yes, I am aware of ignorance and intolerance, and am perhaps a bit more sensitive to those characteristics when directed at me. And I suppose that were I gay or black, I would be more sensitive to the opression of those groups than I am now. -- ==-------------==-------------==-------------==-------------==-------------== Daniel V. Klein, who recently gave up a lucrative job as a freelance consultant to go work for the warmongering SEI, and is, frankly, enjoying himself. ARPA: dvk@sei.cmu.edu USENET: ucbvax!dvk@sei (questionable link)