Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!topaz!rutgers!sri-spam!sri-unix!hplabs!tektronix!uw-beaver!ubc-vision!ubc-cs!manis From: manis@ubc-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: soc.motss Subject: Re: New question for biblical scholars Message-ID: <426@ubc-cs.UUCP> Date: Tue, 7-Oct-86 14:56:43 EDT Article-I.D.: ubc-cs.426 Posted: Tue Oct 7 14:56:43 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Oct-86 00:37:55 EDT References: <1575@felix.UUCP> <1576@felix.UUCP> <414@ubc-cs.UUCP> <1635@felix.UUCP> Reply-To: manis@ubc-cs.UUCP (Vincent Manis) Organization: UBC Department of Computer Science Lines: 48 In article <1635@felix.UUCP> daver@felix.UUCP (Dave Richards) writes: >My question was based on ignorance, as are most sincere questions. >I hesitate >when using the word "ignorance" because I feel it has taken on a somewhat >negative connotation, and I sense that it was used by Vincent with that >intention. > >Vince, it's too bad you had to ruin an otherwise superlative article (pun >intended) with the condescending crap in front. The article is the most com- >plete and useful response that I've seen. I only wish you had answered by >e-mail as I requested, as it was pure chance that I saw it in this group. > >I've been reading news on this net for about a year, and have not seen this >subject discussed before. If it is frequently discussed in this newsgroup, >then >I am sorry for taking up your valuable time and net space with my query. But >again, if everyone had replied by e-mail, that is ALL the space that would >have been taken up. Dave, let me say that I'm sincerely sorry that my remark offended you (since the original remark was posted, so too should the apology). I would stop there, except that you (and other people who just "happened" across this newsgroup) may not know the context within which I made that remark. About once every three months, somebody posts something like the following: "Please forgive my ignorance, but how do gay people reconcile their beliefs with the fact that gays are garbage?" This then sparks off a heated debate in which the original poster defends his (I can't remember a "her" in this position) right to post and right to hold offensive positions. I used the phrase "incredibly ignorant" to suggest that perhaps you really didn't know about MCC, Dignity, etc., etc., and that perhaps you weren't planning to start off one of these debates. Again, I am sorry that you took offense; I would encourage you to remain in this newsgroup, and to participate. As a postscript, the notion of a group of gays getting together to prepare an expurgated/amended version of the Bible strikes me as extremely funny; by the time that the committee on lesbian participation, the committee on solidarity with people of colour, and the committee on the correct political position on pornography had all submitted their reports, the organisation sponsoring the rewrite would undoubtedly have fractured into three competing organisations.