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From: tjc@hrcca.UUCP (Thomas J. Chapin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: A Date with Doug?
Message-ID: <193@hrcca.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 25-Sep-86 17:27:36 EDT
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Posted: Thu Sep 25 17:27:36 1986
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> In article <6012@lll-crg.ARpA> nolan@lll-crg.UUCP (Matt Nolan) writes:
> > 	Carol, you missed my point completely, as I stated the behavior
> > I observe ( which is at last fairly common and works for other males, and
> > for some females is the norm ) is not the the behavior I would wish to mimic
> > in seeking a date, such is my problem that I would like advice.
> 
> > 	Sorry, b?i%t$c&h, but what I stated is ...
>            ^^^^^^^^^
> For someone who doesn't want to be abusive, you aren't doing very well.

If nice guys really are seen as undesirable wimps, then it's not going
to do us much good to try to score points off Matt for having the
emotional honesty to admit to his pain, frustration, and bitterness.
> 
> For what it's worth, I have NEVER met a woman who wanted to be abused in
> the manner you described.  I have known some who WERE, but none who WANTED
> to be.  
>                                                   -kee

Unfortunately, those who get abused at all get abused over and over
again.  There are too few slimes and too many nice guys who would never
abuse someone deliberately or negligently for that to be sheer chance.

If someone gets hurt once, they didn't know any better.  If they get
abused twice, they shoulda known better.  If they get abused in the
same way three times, then they are getting something out of it that
keeps them going back for more. 

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