Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cuae2!ltuxa!hrcca!bodhi From: bodhi@hrcca.UUCP (Bodhisattva) Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.women Subject: Re: Yale-Harvard marriage study Message-ID: <203@hrcca.UUCP> Date: Fri, 3-Oct-86 00:56:31 EDT Article-I.D.: hrcca.203 Posted: Fri Oct 3 00:56:31 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Oct-86 10:29:59 EDT References: <14915@onfcanim.UUCP> <519@randvax.UUCP> <1078@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> <196@hrcca.UUCP> <1118@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Resource Management, HRCC - Lisle, Il Lines: 145 Keywords: Cheryl-baiting again - needed entertainment Xref: watmath soc.singles:299 soc.women:202 In <1118@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> Cheryl flames her feeble best: > In article <196@hrcca.UUCP> bodhi@hrcca.UUCP (Bodhisattva) retorts: > >In <1078@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> Cheryl bitches: > >> > >> When I was a sophomore, my boyfriend at the time was a senior. He > >> EXPECTED me to transfer to wherever HE got into grad school (NO SHIT!). > >> Needless to say, I gave him his walking papers. > > >Lotsa gripes ... > > No, I don't have anything to gripe about. I gave him his walking papers. > The BOOT. I'm making a lot more money than him these days besides. And > I'm damned proud of it. Yes, I can date men older than me, NOT let them > beat me down, and wind up making more money than them 5 years down the road. Yes...money IS so important. It is such a good way to judge our relative worth as human beings. I am SO glad you have enlightened me regarding the true values in life! > > > >> SOMETHING AS VACUOUS AND STUPID AS THE COLLEGE DATING GAME. > > >Then why did you engage in it? > > I didn't. I callously used them for my own satisfaction, then dumped > them when they got sentimental. I knew pooh and ooblick didn't think it up on their own, I knew they had an ideal role model to emulate. > > You blaming the victim again? If you asked Mr. Fake Feminsist that > got the boot, you'd hear him portaying himself as the victim. Then you can > blame THAT victim for trying to mess with Cheryl. Oh, but I DO blame him. None of us should ever be surprised at what happens to us at the hands of those we choose to get close to. We see the non-verbal signals clearly, and choose to make our mistakes anyway. So far we've found out the sucker tried to be a feminist, asked you for an action to show commitment, and was in his eyes victimized by you. From the mercifully little I've seen of you from a thousand miles away, I certainly blame him if he tried to feel surprised at getting chewed up and spit out by you. And I praise you for your mercy in sending him away instead of inflicting yourself on him further. > > >> > Citing actress Sigourney Weaver's popularity as a strong, mature and > >> > attractive heroine in the movie "Aliens," Swidler said, "It may be that > >> > if these norms change over time, women's success may become part of > >> > their attractiveness." > >> > >> What GARBAGE!! This Swindler person presupposes that the primary function > >> of woman is to be attractive to a man, and that the only value her success > >> can have is that it may make her attractive to a man. > >> Where oh where are your critical faculties, woman? > >> Cheryl > > >Maybe tomorrow I will feel a bit more compassionate, but it's been a > >long, rough day and I don't feel any great kindness for girls who take a > > I don't need your compassion, fat man. I don't have any compassion > for THEM either. You've got some goddamned nerve lumping me in with > a bunch of bimbo sorority girls. You obviously don't have much of > a comeback for my rebuttal of the idea that the value of a woman's > success is that it may someday make her attractive to a man. I was trying to let you off easy...you tend to lose your way when you try to deal with things seriously. If you could get beyond your need to find things to attack in whoever you deal with, you might have understood that Swindler is making the point that, given enough positive female role models, there is hope that men could begin to value women who are capable, rather than just bimbos. Meanwhile, the only point I see to your "rebuttal" is hatred of the possibility that men and women could find each other attractive. Of course, if the only value men have for you is as opponents in the game of "dueling paychecks"... > > >running leap into a mud puddle and then bitch and moan when they get > >dirty. I see a helluva lotta gripes here that seem to spring from being > >around domineering guys instead of good ones. Well, nobody twisted your > > WHOM are you addressing? Did I get dirty? I dropped him the moment > he showed any signs of domineering. I see. Only one domineer allowed per relationship. > > > My own nasty guess ... > > For Your Information, ASSHOLE, he was a VIRGIN. A puny, nerdly JUNIOR > who made ONE mistake and got his ass DUMPED for thinking I would transfer. Yeah, I thought if I poked and prodded enough you'd come out with it. You enjoy bitching about domineering men, but you choose a sweetheart of a guy who's even still a virgin and you search desperately for the slightest chink to justify your being overwhelmingly nasty so you can pretend he deserved it. > > > For Your Information, ASSHOLE, > Boy, you really are an asshole. > For Your Information, ASSHOLE, Gee, darling, when are you gonna offer to kiss and make up? > > >Well, where were your critical faculties beforehand, woman? > > They were there all along. My dear gentle girl, "hypercritical" and "hypocritical" are not the same as "critical." > > >So tonight I am going to grumble at everyone who complains when they > >receive just what they asked for and grabbed for and got burned by. > > Well, you asked for it!! You got it. > > Cheryl Ah! Thank you, dear heart! After all those long years of niceness, I needed to get some exercise with a little war of invective. What you lack in elegance and eloquence, you make up for in volume, vituperation, and redundancy. Now, since we have been shedding more heat than light, should we move toward a topic, continue warring privately, or continue to entertain? -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bodhisattva UUCP: ihnp4!hrcca!bodhi koho chojo manako ni unsho o mi, koto tohen wadei gassui from the top of the solitary peak, i gaze at the clouds; close by the old ferry landing i am splashed xxxx xxxx. by Cheryl. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -