Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site hcrvx2.UUCP Path: utzoo!hcrvx2!jimr From: jimr@hcrvx2.UUCP (Jim Robinson) Newsgroups: soc.women,soc.singles Subject: Re: My problems with rape (really gun control) Message-ID: <2407@hcrvx2.UUCP> Date: Thu, 9-Oct-86 11:07:19 EDT Article-I.D.: hcrvx2.2407 Posted: Thu Oct 9 11:07:19 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 10-Oct-86 00:22:34 EDT References: <1904@mtgzy.UUCP> <8608050927.AA09486@cory.Berkeley.EDU> <1109@kontron.UUCP> Reply-To: jimr@hcr.UUCP (Jim Robinson) Organization: Human Computing Resources, Toronto Lines: 18 Summary: In article <1109@kontron.UUCP> cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes: >There is considerable argument about the relative importance of the >different factors -- the lack of controllable experimental subjects is >the major reason. I should point out, however, that there are many states >in the U.S. that have dramatically lower murder rates than Canada, with >much higher availability of firearms. (South Dakota, for example, last >time I looked up murder rates, had .6 murders/100,000 -- as opposed to >Canada, 6.1/100,000.) Once again apples and oranges are being compared. Comparing the murder rate in South Dakota to that of Canada (which includes large cities such as Toronto, Montreal, and the murder capital of the country, Vancouver) makes little sense. A more reasonable comparison would involve S.D. and either Manitoba or perhaps Saskatchewan (both of which are provinces for those ignorant of North American geography). J.B. Robinson