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From: mazur@inmet.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Treat 'em like dirt boys
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Date: Thu, 9-Oct-86 16:01:00 EDT
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Posted: Thu Oct  9 16:01:00 1986
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Nf-From: inmet.UUCP!mazur    Oct  9 16:01:00 1986


>  O.k. I've had just about enough of this bulls**t, I wish some 
>  WOMEN (not men) would explain to me why they must be treated
>  like dirt for them to like you back?  Yes it does sound stupid

I am soooo tired of this.  Like rape and abortion, it keeps coming
back.  If you believe the above, then all you have to do to get,
and keep, a woman is to:

      1) go to any place single women hang out - how about a dance club?
      2) pick anybody that looks good - after all, they're going to hang
         around as long as you treat them like dirt, so you might as well
         like their looks.
      3) walk up, say "hi bitch", toss a drink in her face, and drag her
         onto the dance floor (note that you have already decided that this
         woman does not have a Chicago Bears linebacker for a SO).
      4) she will melt in your arms, and as long as you beat her up, verbally
         abuse her, etc., she'll be yours.

OK, sarcasm aside (for the moment), what's the story?  I think there are
two parts.  One is that some women may (that's not ALL women, not even MANY
women) have low enough self-esteem that they will either stay in a 
relationship that turns bad or will go into a relationship that looks bad
from the start.  After all, you don't know the WHOLE picture.  While the
guy may look like he's abusing her, she may be getting enough out of it to
put up with the shit.  

Not to mention the fact that women are now being told that the chances of 
their getting married rapidly approach nil as they age, and it gets 
increasingly hard to give up a bad relationship.  If you have little 
self-esteem, no relationship may seem a lot (see TWO words!!) more 
painful than a bad one.

So that's one possibility - some (not ALL!) women are just insecure enough
to put up with the bad for what they see as the good.  But still, as far
as I'm concerned, that doesn't excuse this endless repetitious whining
of "I can't get a date, and the reason is 'cause women only want men who 
treat them badly".  Well, that ain't the reason.

You guys who are having trouble finding an SO, well, join the real world -
read a paper some time or watch the news.  Everyone is having trouble.
And you don't hear any women, here or anywhere else moaning that they can't
find a guy who will treat them badly enough.  If anything, too many women
*are* looking for Joe Stereotype Right, you know, the one who is 3 years 
older, is 4 inches taller, makes 20K more a year and has one more degree.
But they aren't looking for men to abuse them.  They are just looking for
men.  And they just might settle for abuse.

But if you want to complain about your bad luck, and then blame it on "those
women", well, what can I expect?  Except to read it again two months from
now, and then next March, and then next September ...

Beth Mazur
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