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From: rb@cci632.UUCP (Rex Ballard)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Celebacy Re: Sex and the single ...
Message-ID: <505@cci632.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 11-Oct-86 15:26:48 EDT
Article-I.D.: cci632.505
Posted: Sat Oct 11 15:26:48 1986
Date-Received: Sun, 12-Oct-86 06:01:24 EDT
References: <5009@decwrl.DEC.COM> <1062@mmm.UUCP>
Reply-To: rb@ccird2.UUCP (Rex Ballard)
Organization: CCI, Rochester Development, Rochester, NY
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Summary: Surprise!!

In article <1062@mmm.UUCP> cipher@mmm.UUCP (Andre Guirard) writes:
>In article <5009@decwrl.DEC.COM> early@tonto.dec.com writes:
>>... Some religious clubs maintain [that]... everyone
>>was meant to be married... unless EXCUSED by their
>>[church]. Which coincidentally permits the church LEADERS
>>to lead non married and otherwise celibate lives (remember celibate only
>>means NOT married !). How convenient, hey ?
>
>I didn't "remember" this, so I looked it up in the American Heritage
>Dictionary.  The definition reads as follows:
>
>	celibacy, n: 1. The condition of being unmarried, esp. by
>	    reason of religious vows.  2. Abstinence from sexual
>	    intercourse.
>
>Celibacy does not "only" mean being unmarried.  Mr. Early implies that
>the celibacy requirement is to allow priests the privilege of fooling
>around which is denied to the laity.  However, in every religion I know
>that has a celibacy requirement for priests, definition (2) is used.
>If Mr. Early would like to provide us with a list of religions that use
>definition (1) he is free to do so, but I suggest he consult references
>on the subject before once more inserting pedal appendage in oral cavity.
The Jesuit order of the Catholic faith uses definition (1).
The Fransican order explicitly uses definition (2) (chastity).
The majority, but not all, of the orders include vows of chastity.
There may also be one order of nuns that do not take chastity vows.
The restrictions on adultry still apply to all, especially sex
with married women.

There are claims of records, and implicit indications, that while
unmarried, St. Paul was not asexual.

Marriage, defined by St. Paul, is the spiritual, emotional, and
physical "becoming one".  Just as a marriage could be anulled
if it was not sexually consumated, a couple having sex was not
married until the were emotionaly and spiritually (by cerimony)
joined.  This basicly gave fathers a way to prevent the marriage
of a daughter through simple seduction.

There are prostitutes in vatican city, most of their clients are
members of orders NOT bound by vows of chastity, only celibacy.