Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ihnp4!houxm!mtuxo!mtune!mtunf!mtx5c!mtx5d!mtx5a!mat From: mat@mtx5a.UUCP (m.terribile) Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,net.legal,soc.singles Subject: Re: Re: All or Nothing? ) Re: Re^5: Attorney General's Commission on Pornography Message-ID: <1596@mtx5a.UUCP> Date: Fri, 10-Oct-86 03:14:30 EDT Article-I.D.: mtx5a.1596 Posted: Fri Oct 10 03:14:30 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 14-Oct-86 06:00:54 EDT References: <789@mtund.UUCP> <16@oliveb.UUCP> <423@cci632.UUCP> <42@oliveb.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Information Systems, Middletown, NJ 07748-4801. Lines: 46 Xref: watmath talk.politics.misc:632 net.legal:5364 soc.singles:495 > >>>It is likely that providers would then require proof of the > > >How novel, a sane approach to Censorship!! :-). > > >How about some sort of "ID card", which parents, probation officers, spouses, > > Thank you for further expanding on this idea. You have taken a more > serious look at it than I did, and I think I could be talked into this > approach in the "real world"; a few nagging doubts, but... > > >>Not that it will happen. We will either have censorship or we won't. > >>Hysteria will either prevail or it won't. "It's that simple". > > Maybe I *was* oversimplifying here, and too pessimistic about politics. > Rational policies *do* sometimes get instituted, even with reguard to sex. > > Your linking of the card idea to truth-in-packaging is essential to the > issue being taken seriously, and I thank you for your thoughtful article. > (And MT for goading us all into thinking so hard, even if he does raise > my bloodpressure sometimes... ) I'm happy to oblige. Actually, I think that we are doing a Good Thing here by finding a point upon which most of our values *can* be satisfied. I *do* have serious reservations about anything that would put the burden of enforcement upon our current, overworked, abused, and rather ill system of tort law. Alas, I think that this would ``make too much sense'' and that the way to get it is to first try applying mildly restrictive laws (see my replies to Rex B), and then using a combination of the backlash from those and the reasoned approach that might occur after the blood lust is settled to move in this direction. Remember, where the industry currently operates underground, it will be much harder to make it respectable than it was to create, say, a diving equipment rental industry that will not rent you gear unless you have a certifying card. (remember also that in that industry there is a much more tangible and expensive asset involved than the transaction than a magazine or videotape ...) -- from Mole End Mark Terribile (scrape .. dig ) mtx5b!mat (Please mail to mtx5b!mat, NOT mtx5a! mat, or to mtx5a!mtx5b!mat) (mtx5b!mole-end!mat will also reach me) ,.. .,, ,,, ..,***_*.