Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!columbia!rutgers!nike!oliveb!rap From: rap@oliveb.UUCP (Robert A. Pease) Newsgroups: soc.women Subject: Re: Feminism and Abortion Message-ID: <97@oliveb.UUCP> Date: Wed, 8-Oct-86 18:06:38 EDT Article-I.D.: oliveb.97 Posted: Wed Oct 8 18:06:38 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 16-Oct-86 05:04:05 EDT References: <2710@burdvax.UUCP> <5833@ut-sally.UUCP> <311@isieng.UUCP> <50@oliveb.UUCP> <313@isieng.UUCP> Reply-To: rap@olivej.UUCP (Robert A. Pease) Distribution: world Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino, Ca Lines: 77 In article <313@isieng.UUCP> kiki@isieng.UUCP (Kiki Herbst) writes: In article <50@oliveb.UUCP> rap@olivej.UUCP (Robert A. Pease) writes: >In article <311@isieng.UUCP> kiki@isieng.UUCP (Kiki Herbst) writes: > >>Be careful with this idea. It can be easily used to justify a >>lifestyle akin to that depicted in "1984". I think what has a better >>outcome is to live and let live. Its like I tell my kids, "Don't you >>worry what she's doing, you take care of yourself and let her take >>care of herself." >>-- >> Robert A. Pease >That is exactly my point in why we should base our decisions on what God >wants. First of all, no one really KNOWS what "God" wants. All we can do is point to something and say, "This indicates that God wants ta-da." If someone KNEW what "God" wanted then there would not be such a heated debate about "The TRUE Religion." >Every person can make his or her decisions based on many different >elements. Take the extreme example of Hitler who slaughtered the Jews >because he thought he was doing the right thing. Everybody else thought >he was doing the wrong thing! Hitler is not at issue here. What is at issue is using the idea that "I know what is right for you." Only I and my deity know what is best for me and only I and my deity should make that choice. Not you. Not Jerry F. Not Ronnie R. (BTW - Hitler was enforcing his idea of what was right on other people and that made him wrong.) >People make decisions based on many different >factors. But they are not always the right decisions. One person's decision >on what is right may be completely different to what is really right. Maybe, but that person is the only one who can decide this. And that decision is based on the "many different factors" that are personal to that person and in that person's situation. >Jesus >said that He is the Truth. If Jesus is God (like he said) than He knows >what is right. If we base our decisions on His Truth, then the will not >fluctute with the whims of man. I'm having trouble with what you are saying (or meaning). It doesn't make sense to me. Then again, I'm beginning to get the idea that (at least in this sentence) you are referring to a limited range of decisions. I'm talking about any decision that a person [me] makes. That decision is between me and my deity and no one should try to interfere with my making that decision. The decision that I make will change as my conditions change. Example, new needs, new understanding of a situation, etc. >This does not mean that we become a monotaneous >unthinking society, but that we put the Love of God as our primary goal and >react to people with that Love. > >Kiki Sorry to say, but from your description above it does sound monotonous and even rigid. I really don't like the sound of it. Now, just as a closing remark to prevent any mis-apprehensions, at least in one place above I noticed that I sound rather forceful. Please interpet this as being emphatic not angry. And with that I bid you a fond, "So loong!" PS - Don't follow up to Kiki. It confuses my news reader something awful. -- Robert A. Pease {hplabs|zehntel|fortune|ios|tolerant|allegra|tymix}!oliveb!oliven!rap