Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ihnp4!qantel!lll-lcc!lll-crg!seismo!uwvax!husc6!panda!genrad!decvax!tektronix!reed!omssw2!omssw1!hays From: hays@omssw1.UUCP (Kirk Hays) Newsgroups: soc.women,soc.singles Subject: Re: My problems with rape (or why my views are so different from Message-ID: <169@omssw1.UUCP> Date: Tue, 16-Sep-86 18:20:16 EDT Article-I.D.: omssw1.169 Posted: Tue Sep 16 18:20:16 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Sep-86 00:10:32 EDT References: <1904@mtgzy.UUCP> <8608050927.AA09486@cory.Berkeley.EDU> <3116@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> <121@sri-unix.ARPA> Reply-To: hays@omssw1.UUCP (Kirk Hays) Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, OR Lines: 23 Xref: watmath soc.women:25 soc.singles:28 In article <121@sri-unix.ARPA> maslak@sri-unix.ARPA (Valerie Maslak) writes: . . . > Do the people who advocate self-defense for women >as a cure for the rape epidemic think that shopkeepers who don't own >shotguns are asking to be robbed? Yes. Here's a dogmatic idea: Societies that require individuals to be responsible for their own defense have less violence and less crime than societies (like ours) that strip the individual of these abilities. Remember, kiddies, the cops can't be everywhere! 8-{)} --------------------------------------------------^ (Obligatory smiley for those with knee-jerk reactions) Comments? Flames? Intelligent, thought-out counter arguments? All are equally welcome. Kirk