Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watmath.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!credmond From: credmond@watmath.UUCP (Chris Redmond) Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.women Subject: Re: A clear case of rape? Message-ID: <3345@watmath.UUCP> Date: Wed, 24-Sep-86 10:14:20 EDT Article-I.D.: watmath.3345 Posted: Wed Sep 24 10:14:20 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Sep-86 21:47:12 EDT References: <4834@decwrl.DEC.COM> <2f95211a.46@apollo.uucp> Reply-To: credmond@watmath.UUCP (Chris Redmond) Distribution: net.singles,net.women Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 24 Xref: watmath soc.singles:86 soc.women:58 In article <2154@mtgzz.UUCP> eme@mtgzz.UUCP (e.m.eades) writes: >>If you were on a jury, and rape had a mandatory death penalty, would you >>send the guy to the electric chair? > >In the last 5-10 years they have lowered they mandatory sentence for >rape in several states because they (legistators) beleived that they >were not able to get convictions because the juries thought that the >mandatory sentence was too severe and therefore weren't convicting >criminals that they thought were probably guilty. > People who are "probably guilty" are SUPPOSED to be acquitted. That's how the court system works in the United States, Canada, and a number of other moderately civilized countries. No one can be punished for an alleged crime unless found to be guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt" -- which is a lot more stringent than "probably". This is not merely a quibble about words, because there does seem to be a tendency -- I won't say that feminists are MORE fond of it than others, but they're sure no less so -- to brand people guilty, even in a legal sense, if it seems PROBABLE, but by no means certain, that they did something bad.