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From: david@tekig5.UUCP (David Hayes)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Reply to Carole
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Date: Tue, 16-Sep-86 15:24:48 EDT
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Posted: Tue Sep 16 15:24:48 1986
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In article <5269@decwrl.DEC.COM> ferrin@tonto.dec.com (Doug Ferrin) writes:
>
>		I very much sympathise with the plight of women. From
>	this last article it is evident that you spent a good deal of
>	your life trying not to get pregnant. More than I can say for a
>	family friend who just had an abortion at 5 months pregnant and
>	never practiced birth control - second abortion too. 	

So this was a case of when abortion was bad in your eyes.
Should the intent of the mother be weighed?  Did she try hard enough to
not get pregnant?

>		My main	concern is that abortion is being used as a form
>	of birth control and not for what it was intended - to save a 
>	mothers	life, rape, incest etc.. The percentage of these is very

I don't know if their was ever an "intended use" for abortion other than
terminating pregnancies.  

>	low. One abortion clinic in a neighboring town has advertised 
>	free pregnancy tests. The new scam that was found at the clinic
>	was that women who not pregnant were being told that they were.
>	The clinic would then go ahead with the mock abortion. Big
>	BUCKS $$$$$. Now the abrtionist are playing games with your 
>	head and your wallet.

All doctors that perform abortions are now conspiring against women?
The fact that one clinic gypped women ount of their money is a reason
for legislation?  Funny, in our town their are pro-life centers
masqerading as abortion clinics to intentionally deceive.

>		I am against abortion for convenience. I don't

You mean if she got pregnant she should pay for it, right?

>	think an innocent third party should pay because someone wants
>	to be sexually active and has an "accident". This blob of cells,

Of what third party do you speak?  Why do you separate a fetus from the
mother?  It cannot be done in the real world.  And what does innocence
have to do with anything?  Isn't the mother innocent?

>	zygote or whatever label you attach to it has never
>	developed	into anything other than a human being in all of
>	history. So to say that it's just a mass of tissue is incorrect.
>	It will - if it is let to live - grow up to be a human being.
>	Nothing else. And to stop it's development at that stage by

Monkeys are monkeys too, what is your point?

>	grinding it to a pulp and throwing it away is the worst form of
>	child abuse that I've heard of. 
>
Ah, you are one of those sensitive individuals who carry the signs with
pictures of bloody hacked up fetuses.  Next you will be telling us what
is actually done with dead fetuses. Ooooh, ick.

Have you seen what parents do with some unwanted real children?
(that is post birth Doug)

>
>	Cheers,
> 	Have a nice day.
> 	Doug Ferrin 

cheers, have a nice day, so long as you don't do anything I don't like.
dave