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From: rap@oliveb.UUCP (Robert A. Pease)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Best for Others?
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Date: Wed, 8-Oct-86 16:16:47 EDT
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In article <2621@watdcsu.UUCP> mberkley@watdcsu.UUCP (J.M.Berkley - Computing Services) writes:
>In article <649@houem.UUCP> marty1@houem.UUCP (M.BRILLIANT) writes:
>>Second, the fetus is not legally a
>>"person," for reasons that have been gone over before in this
>>newsgroup, so the state need not concern itself with protecting it. 
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Maybe this is true in a legal sense, but not morally.  I'm
>talking about morality in society, not legality.  Morally, you
>can't do anything but consider the fetus a "person."

This is a position that I cannot agree with.  No one  KNOWS.
All  we can do is report observations, and because of this I
will not require that a fetus be thought of as an individual
person.

>The view of pro-choice is that an unborn baby is not a person,
>the view of pro-life is that the unborn baby is a person.
>(This states the obvious, but you seem to need to hear it.)
>
>Mike Berkley

I may be mis-stateing the position, but as I see it the pro-
choice  position  is  a  question  of when does one person's
rights end where those rights conflict  and  interfere  with
another person's rights.

An example I have used before.  If I injured myself in  such
a way that I would die if you did not give me some organ for
transplant and you were the only person  in  the  world  who
could  give  me this organ, do you have a right to refuse me
that organ if it doesn't adversly affect your helth?

My answer to the question is, yes.
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					Robert A. Pease
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