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From: pdobeda@watnot.UUCP (Paul D. Obeda)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Bible references
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Date: Tue, 14-Oct-86 13:04:31 EDT
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Posted: Tue Oct 14 13:04:31 1986
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>  marty1@houem.UUCP (M.B.Brilliant) 
>> jimt@fluke.UUCP (James Turner) 

>>God says not to murder people.  Exodus 20:13, Romans 13:9, Exodus 23:7
>>
>>Abortion is murder.  Jeremiah 1:4-5, Luke 1:15, Luke 1:41

>What turned me off from the Bible as a moral guide is the way the
>Israelites, with the aid of the Hand of God, blasted their way like a
>Blitzkrieg through the land of Canaan, slaughtering the inhabitants
>along the way.  I suppose the ethics of the Old Testament, and the New
>Testament, were advanced for their time, but today we would not condone
>a Jewish Blitzkrieg.
>
>Sorry, I don't mean to stifle discussion based on the Bible.  Just put
>it in perspective.

Sorry for posting this publicly, as I am sure that Marty is the only
one to whom this appropriately addressed,  (Wanna buy some land in
Florida??) but it seems all too popular to take a comment in or out of
context from the Bible, twist its meaning to justify any particular
view, and then claim that the Bible supports that view.

The Bible is very clear that murder is against God's will.  The Bible
also is clear enough that induced abortion does constitute murder.

On the other hand, the inhabitants of Canaan were not living according
to God's will.  God dinna like that, and He gave the land back to the
Israelites.  It's (in an oversimplified way) something like this:  God
let everyone know what the Law was/is.  Some chose not to play along
by the rules.  They risk getting blasted away, just as does anyone who
does not do as God says, today.  Change your attitude, and there's a
whole new light on the situation.

This discussion now could quickly turn to What God Says, and Why
Should We Listen.  But here, now, I don't really care what you
believe.  It won't change the facts of what's gonna happen; it won't
make abortion _right_.

Paul D. Obeda