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From: cc@locus.ucla.edu (Oleg "Kill the bastards" Kiselev)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: It's still mine
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Date: Wed, 24-Sep-86 19:28:56 EDT
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Posted: Wed Sep 24 19:28:56 1986
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Reply-To: oac6.oleg@LOCUS.UCLA.EDU (Oleg "Kill the bastards" Kiselev)
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Summary: Mandatory celibacy?! An INTERESTING solution... But I'll pass!

In article <216@BMS-AT.UUCP> stuart@BMS-AT.UUCP (Stuart D. Gathman) writes:
>This is indeed the crux of the matter.  Good old fashioned celibacy before
>marriage seems to have been forgotten.  Evolutionists must be right: we
>are becoming more like animals all the time!  I wonder if people realize
>that there is more to life than copulation.  Having been celibate for
>27 years so far, I can testify that it won't kill you.  In fact, I 
>I don't even think about it all the time!  (What? Is
>there something wrong with me?)  (My girlfriend is considering taking
>the plunge at this moment.)

You may be uninformed, but abortions and unwanted pregnancies do not afflict
the unwed women only. According to the statistics I have, 20% of women who
seek abortions are married. Even the Catholics do not advocate celibacy in
marriage. And many Xtians think that sex is "blessed" between the married
spouses. But, to repeat my earlier statement, birth control fails at times
and not everyone is willing or able to support a large family.

Celibacy and no sex except for procreation only? I would bet such point of
view has never been popular, even among the devout Xtians or there would not
have been a Western Civilization.....

(BTW:
Your vicious side remark about evolutionists is slanderous and uncalled for.
The thrashing you get in talk.origins and talk.religion.misc for flaunting
your ignorance is not a sufficient excuse for making gratuitous, irrelevant
and insulting comments about issues not discussed in this forum.)

				Oleg Kiselev, HASA "A" division, PRO-CHOICE