Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!lll-crg!seismo!uwvax!uwmacc!myers From: myers@uwmacc.UUCP (Jeff Myers) Newsgroups: talk.abortion,net.legal Subject: Re: Interesting legal issues Message-ID: <309@uwmacc.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Sep-86 10:34:51 EDT Article-I.D.: uwmacc.309 Posted: Tue Sep 30 10:34:51 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 1-Oct-86 06:01:51 EDT References: <752@oswego.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: UWisconsin-Madison Academic Comp Center Lines: 51 Xref: watmath talk.abortion:42 net.legal:5218 > Recently I read an interesting piece written by a lawyer about the > constitutional legality of the decisions of the supreme court becoming the > law of the land. Given as evidence were three decisions handed down since > 1957. These are: > > 1. Brown v. Board of Education (1957) [Mandatory desegregation], > 2. The Madeline Murray O'Hare case (1963) [No prayer in schools], > 3. Roe v. Wade (1973) [Legalized abortions on demand]. Roe v. Wade is also a landmark privacy issue case, resting on other precedent. > > Now I am intrigued by this information. It is true that the consti- > tution gave legislative powers only to congress, and (*in my opinion*) the > judiciary does _not_ have the power to legislate. If you've ever taken a look at a statute or a constitution, you would realize that they are not written in a crystal clear fashion -- in order to implement law, it must be INTERPRETED. That is what courts do. Considering balance of power issues, the federal govt is just a blur anyway. Executive agencies legislate thru federal regulations; the legislature regulates the war powers of the commander in chief; the courts do legislate in a sense thru their interpretations of law. It is a very real question where to draw the line, but the Nuevo Right talks like it's an on-again off-again problem...it's not that simple. Judgement is by definition interpretation, and hence in a very real since is legislation. Laws are so much mulch until interpreted by courts. > As far as I can tell (and I'm no attorney) precedent is useful > in civil or criminal cases, but not in questions of constitutionality. I am > a citizen of this country and proud of it. I just can't sit here and let > the balance of power be upset by the supreme court. They are supposed to be > above politics because of their life terms. They are also sworn to uphold the > constitution _as_it_stands_, not as they see it. > > !ihnp4!oswego!gacs3651 (Robert Knighton) Precedent is precedent, until overruled by the courts themselves, or by statute. Man/Woman is a political animal; judges are human; hence judges are political. No amount of ranting that they are not allowed to interpret law is going to change that. -- Jeff Myers The views above may or may not University of Wisconsin-Madison reflect the views of any other Madison Academic Computing Center person or group at UW-Madison. ARPA: myers@unix.macc.wisc.edu UUCP: ..!{harvard,ucbvax,allegra,topaz,akgua,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!myers BitNet: MYERS at WISCMACC