Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rutgers!caip!dayton!rosevax!carole From: carole@rosevax.UUCP (Carole Ashmore) Newsgroups: talk.abortion Subject: Re: Reply to Marty Message-ID: <646@rosevax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Sep-86 14:43:43 EDT Article-I.D.: rosevax.646 Posted: Tue Sep 30 14:43:43 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 2-Oct-86 20:32:46 EDT References: <5488@decwrl.DEC.COM> Organization: Rosemount Inc., Eden Prairie, MN Lines: 41 Summary: Mention of abortion in the Hippocratic Oath In article <5488@decwrl.DEC.COM>, ferrin@tonto.dec.com (Doug Ferrin) writes: > I do not think that abortion was ever socially acceptable. It's > also interesting to note that in the oath of Hypocrates it is > stated that a doctor shall not cause a woman to lose a child by > abortion (pardon my indirect quote). 'Indirect quote', indeed! You have misinterpreted the Hippocratic oath to support your anti abortion position. I quote (directly): . . . I will give no deadly medicine to anyone if asked nor suggest any such counsel, and in like manner I will not give to a woman a pessary to produce abortion. The Hippocratic Oath does not forbid abortion, per se, but a particular method of abortion. The method (which was still in occasional use by non medical practitioners of abortion up to the time of Roe vs. Wade) was that of introducing a foreign object into the uterus and waiting for the irritation caused by infection to cause the expulsion of the fetus. Unfortunately, this method, even after the introduction of antibiotics in 1945, often produced such a massive infection that the woman died. At the time of origin of the Hippocratic Oath it would usually have been fatal. Note that there is no mention of losing a child (and indeed no mention of a child at all). All concern is concentrated on the woman. Also note from the context (". . . and in like manner") that giving a woman a pessary to produce abortion was seen as similar to helping a patient commit suicide. The physician was enjoined to do neither even if asked by the patient or the patient's relatives. In its concern to forbid a method of abortion likely to kill the woman, the Hippocratic Oath is quite compatible with the Roe vs. Wade decision wherein it is stated that the states may regulate or forbid abortion after the first trimester in the interests of protecting the woman's health. Carole Ashmore