Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!nike!ll-xn!mit-amt!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!mcnc!rti-sel!dg_rtp!throopw From: throopw@dg_rtp.UUCP (Wayne Throop) Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Common mis-definition of "evolution". Message-ID: <599@dg_rtp.UUCP> Date: Fri, 26-Sep-86 12:24:45 EDT Article-I.D.: dg_rtp.599 Posted: Fri Sep 26 12:24:45 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Sep-86 00:36:07 EDT References: <5160@decwrl.DEC.COM> <3566@sdcc3.ucsd.EDU> <194@BMS-AT.UUCP> <20852@styx.UUCP> <209@BMS-AT.UUCP> Lines: 28 > stuart@BMS-AT.UUCP (Stuart D. Gathman) > The whole concept of evolution > is interesting: we are evolving to higher and higher states. This > implies some 'high state' toward which we are moving. There must be > some ideal to which we achieve closer and closer appoximations. Where > did this ideal come from? Well, since in Darwinian evolution there is no such reference to "evolving to higher states", the answer is that in Darwinian evolution the ideal didn't come from anywhere, since it doesn't exist. This "definition" of evolution as directed towards "higher states" is a common misconception. Darwinian evolution is talking about adaptation to environment, not change directed to some "ideal form". And even if there is an "ideal form" that is "perfectly suited" for some environment-or-other, Darwinian evolution is *NOT* directed "towards" this ideal, but rather *AWAY* from less-adapted forms. Please, folks, if you want to find flaws in evolutionary theory, attempt to find these flaws in the real theory, not in a straw man disguised as evolutionary theory. -- Optimization hinders evolution. --- Alan J. Perlis -- Wayne Throop !mcnc!rti-sel!dg_rtp!throopw