Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!lll-lcc!qantel!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!tullis From: tullis@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: What's this LIFE stuff? Message-ID: <45500088@uiucdcs> Date: Fri, 19-Sep-86 07:28:00 EDT Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.45500088 Posted: Fri Sep 19 07:28:00 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Sep-86 23:47:05 EDT Lines: 24 Nf-ID: #N:uiucdcs:45500088:000:1166 Nf-From: uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU!tullis Sep 19 06:28:00 1986 It seems this notesfile has drifted far away from its beginnings, which were to be discussing origins. Either it rambles into long pedantic arguements about whether there is or is not a god or God, and what he/she looks like and eats for breakfast; or we get long `scientific' ramblings about punctuated or periodic or gradual evolution (assumed as Law, like Law of Gravity, rather than theory); or totally psuedo-scientific or quasi-mystical bullshit about the `felt affect of gravity', etc. So, I challenge anyone who reads this notesfile to the following challenge. The challenge is: What is LIFE? If we want to discuss the origin of life...we should know what this `life' stuff is. Think conceptually and abstractly, in the sense that if (a definite hypothetical example) we go (someday) to other planets both in this and other solar systems, how will we recognize primitive life forms? Some things are definitely alive (I am, and you presumably are if you are reading this). But how do we definitely draw the line between life and non-life? What properties does a system have to have to be A LIVING ORGANISM? What is LIFE? (Post all responses here)