Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!caip!cbmvax!daveh From: daveh@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (Dave Haynie) Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Re: Rowing through the fog Message-ID: <782@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> Date: Thu, 25-Sep-86 13:09:22 EDT Article-I.D.: cbmvax.782 Posted: Thu Sep 25 13:09:22 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 29-Sep-86 01:32:40 EDT References: <7457MIQ@PSUVMA> Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA Lines: 36 > As an aside, someone else mentioned that after a short time, shock would > have caused Jesus to pass out-- or at least stop feeling pain. I have a > friend who works as an EMT (Emergency Medical Technician) who agrees with > this, saying that people who lose fingers/hands/limbs usually feel no pain > because of shock. On the other hand, I've got another friend who has actually > lost a finger. He said it hurt like hell. I may have posted on that. There's going to be a period of time starting immediately with an injury like that, in which the victim wouldn't feel any pain, do to shock and maybe endorphans (sp?) or other naturally produced pain killers. This effect will eventually wear off, though I would think that the blood loss resulting from spikes being driven through one's wrists would be sufficient to result in unconsciousness during the hour or so of shock. The hour is really a guess, based on personal experience, your EMT friend might have a better idea of how long one would have to wait before the pain sets in. I had a reasonably serious hand injury resulting in a deep cut (fortunately, not all of the way through) that severed the large thumb muscle, etc. I didn't experience any pain for around an hour after the injury, which fortunately just about coincided with my arrival at the hospital. So no severe pain set in until the anesthetic wore off after surgery, but the natural pain relief seemed to last about an hour. I imagine the worst part of Jesus's execution was the day leading up to the crucifixition. Being nailed to a cross seems more like the idea of being hung from a tall tree. Neither a great way to go, but its more a show for the public than a torture of the victim. > --------------------------- > James D. Maloy | THIS SPACE FOR RENT | > The Pennsylvania State University | Call 555-2317 | > --------------------------- -- ============================================================================ Dave Haynie {caip,ihnp4,allegra,seismo}!cbmvax!daveh These opinions are my own, though if you try them out, and decide that you really like them, a small donation would be appreciated.