Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!yale!decvax!cca!mirror!.misc!inmet!janw From: janw@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: talk.philosophy.misc Subject: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <117400009@inmet> Date: Wed, 24-Sep-86 07:23:00 EDT Article-I.D.: inmet.117400009 Posted: Wed Sep 24 07:23:00 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Oct-86 08:09:20 EDT References: <865@sunybcs.UUCP> Lines: 39 Nf-ID: #R:sunybcs.UUCP:-86500:inmet:117400009:000:1633 Nf-From: inmet.UUCP!janw Sep 24 07:23:00 1986 [mccarthy@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU ] >>Sure, let's preserve genetic diversity: let's stock our zoos, >>collect seeds, freeze some animal sperm and eggs for future >>use. Wilson's statement, however, is ridiculous. Species die out >>all the time, with or without human help. A few hundred or >>thousand species is a drop in the ocean. And we will soon start >>creating new species. The problem is of *some* importance but >>has no relevance whatsoever to population control. > Prior to increase in human ability to destroy the environment, species >died out at an average rate of about 2 per century. Now it's in the >thousands and increasing. Whether your figure of 2 is right or not (a reference would be ap- preciated) it is irrelevant to my argument. It was that subtract- ing thousands out of many millions does not reduce genetic diver- sity much. It was also that artificial methods can preserve genetic diversity, without hindering technical progress or popu- lation growth. It also was that other artificial methods can ac- tually increase genetic diversity, and do it fast. >The arrogance inherent in your anthropocentric chauvinism A nice bit of McCarthyism :-) But I suspect your labels could be expanded into a philosophical argument - though incorrect. >is exceeded only by the myopia exhibited by your belief that hu- >man life in a world barren of ecological diversity would not be >dreadfully impoverished. Ecological diversity is not necessarily reduced by civilization. Artificial habitats are habitats too, and they can be very diverse. > John McCarthy Jan Wasilewsky