Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!nike!oliveb!hplabs!ucbvax!brahms!zafrany From: zafrany@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (Samy Zafrany) Newsgroups: talk.philosophy.misc Subject: Re: Emotion and Logic Message-ID: <15707@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Thu, 18-Sep-86 00:47:17 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.15707 Posted: Thu Sep 18 00:47:17 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 23-Sep-86 00:08:38 EDT References: <11700119@inmet> <11700370@inmet> <698@ihlpf.UUCP> <485@ccd700.UUCP> <12467@kestrel.ARPA> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: zafrany@brahms.UUCP (Samy Zafrany) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 28 In article <12467@kestrel.ARPA> ladkin@kestrel.ARPA (Peter Ladkin) writes: >In article <485@ccd700.UUCP>, jim@ccd700.UUCP (prototype account) writes: > >> In order for the laws of arithmetic to be *meaningful*, >> they must mean the same thing to everyone. > >Are you familiar with the arguments of Quine that there is no >such attribute as *meaning the same thing* ? >However, he doesn't argue that everything is meaningless. > >So his arguments entail the falsity of your statement. >For your statement to be true, one of his arguments >must be incorrect. Which one? And are you familiar with the arguments of Wittgenstein that there is such an attribute as *meaning the same thing* ? Which only philosophers (like Quine) don't seem to use correctly like the rest of us and therefore fall into their routine traps (like Quine did). So Wittgenstein's arguments entail the falsity of your statement. For your statement to be true, one of his arguments must be incorrect. Which one? ucbvax!brahms!zafrany Samy Zafrany/UCB Math Dept/Berkeley CA 94720 "No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style."