Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!nike!oliveb!hplabs!ucbvax!brahms!zafrany From: zafrany@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (Samy Zafrany) Newsgroups: talk.philosophy.misc Subject: Re: Emotion and Logic Message-ID: <15708@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Thu, 18-Sep-86 01:09:19 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.15708 Posted: Thu Sep 18 01:09:19 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 23-Sep-86 00:08:57 EDT References: <15679@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <6068@alice.uUCp> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: zafrany@brahms.UUCP (Samy Zafrany) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 25 In article <6068@alice.uUCp> ark@alice.UucP (Andrew Koenig) writes: >> If we were lucky to live in a world with infinite objects in it, >>we would probably have another natural number incorporated to our >>arithmetic, i.e. the number used to count an infinite set of chairs (or >>splitzleboards), which we may call: INF. Our arithmetic will be like: >>19+INF=INF, INF*INF=INF, "INF is the greatest natural number" (note >>that we don't have such natural number in our current arithmetic!), >>and so on. > >Maybe yes, maybe no. The trouble is that once you introduce INF, >you give up some other useful properties of natural numbers, >such as cancellation (x+z=y+z implies x=y). Well, no one said that all arithmetics have to have similar properties, what we view as a useful property on Earth might seem like a strange one on Ork and vice versa. Again concepts like "useful", "coherent", "nice" and so forth (even concepts like "exact" and "universal") are culture-dependent, deeply has to do with elementary common forms of life and so on.... . ucbvax!brahms!zafrany Samy Zafrany/UCB Math Dept/Berkeley CA 94720 Imagine a place in which the less money you have the better life you have. In this place 0 will be the greatest number.