Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!pyramid!ucat!scc!steiny From: steiny@scc.UUCP (Don Steiny) Newsgroups: net.med,talk.politics.misc Subject: Re: Drug Abuse - True Problem or Media Hype? (Worse Still) Message-ID: <727@scc.UUCP> Date: Sat, 20-Sep-86 00:29:03 EDT Article-I.D.: scc.727 Posted: Sat Sep 20 00:29:03 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 23-Sep-86 01:17:02 EDT References: <720@scc.UUCP> <981@whuts.UUCP> <723@scc.UUCP> <1251@whuxl.UUCP> <3107@columbia.UUCP> Organization: Don Steiny Software Lines: 80 Xref: linus net.med:4624 talk.politics.misc:227 In article <3107@columbia.UUCP>, zdenek@heathcliff.columbia.edu (Zdenek Radouch) writes: > In article <1251@whuxl.UUCP> orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) writes: > >> > "The Drug Crackdown is the McCarthyism of the 80's"!! > > [more twisted thoughts deleted] > > Don Steiny writes: > >> It is getting worse!! There is a bill before congress > > [additional twisted thoughts deleted] > > This is net.med and its purpose is to support a discussion about medical > issues. It's pretty clear that neither of you has anything creative to say > about a medical field. Please, redirect your postings to elsewhere. I have talk.poltics.misc in the header line. For political and religious reasons we have given the medical profession outragous powers. That is an other issue. Execpt for alcohol and tobacco the only people that can legally push drugs are doctors (they made a killing during prohibition perscribing whiskey). It is a medical issue because we live in a society where it seems reasonable that the medical profession should have control over behavior. As ludicrous as this is, it generates considerable overlap between medicine, politics, and religion. > > Both of you seem to be missing an elementary fact, necessary to understand > the difference between a drug use and a tobacco use. Regardless of the > unquestionable harm implied by both substances, this society has decided > (for whatever reasons) to accept only one of them, namely tobacco. > It's probably because of the reasonably safe end deterministic behaviour > of the addicts (and if they want to die, fine). In the United States, we have the freedom to question laws. Remember that at one time alcohol was illegal, but we decided that it was a mistake to make it illegal. The reasons why various drugs are illegal are well documented parts of US history. What are you? A communist? You sould like a communist to me. Obey the law and don't question the state! Wake up buddy! This is America. > BUT and this is a big but, if you want to use drugs you MUST do something > ILLEGAL in order to obtain them. And there are fortunately still some > people around that do believe in a law. This is circular. They are illegal because there are laws against them. > > So if you want to disscuss whether or not the drugs are harmful > and you find somebody here willing to waste his time, go right ahead. Gee, thanks! > Meanwhile, stop writing the letters to your congressmen and think > a little bit about what you are saying. Hmm, I know what year every drug was made illegal. I know which congresspeople were instrumental in generating the legislation, I know the social conditions that prevailed at the time. I know the chemical composition of most drugs or I can look it up in a moment. I know the receptor sites in the brain that the drugs bind to (for those that do such things), and much more. You just said that you do know even know why some drugs are illegal and others not! YOU are telling ME that I should think? It looks to me like your knee is jerking. > And don't forget that there > are some of us, who not only don't want to live surrounded by drug > addicts but > . . .also don't sit quiet and make sure proposals like yours > don't get very far. I, for one always will. > zdenek I proposed that we do not loose our heads over a problem that is media and political hype and recind the constitution in the process. Are you saying that you are going to try to recind the constitution? That's what we're afraid of! -- scc!steiny Don Steiny @ Don Steiny Software 109 Torrey Pine Terrace Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 (408) 425-0382