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From: baba@garth.UUCP (Baba ROM DOS)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: AWACS and Pearl Harbour.
Message-ID: <374@garth.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 30-Sep-86 02:44:37 EDT
Article-I.D.: garth.374
Posted: Tue Sep 30 02:44:37 1986
Date-Received: Thu, 2-Oct-86 20:31:29 EDT
References: <789@mit-vax.UUCP> <15848@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>
Reply-To: baba@garth.UUCP (Baba ROM DOS)
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In article <15848@ucbvax> desj@brahms.UUCP (David desJardins) writes:
>In article <789@mit-vax.UUCP> oaf@mit-vax.UUCP (Oded Feingold) writes:
>>You guys have it all wrong.  Roosevelt knew the Japanese were about to
>>attack, and let it happen by surprise so we'd take a serious defeat in
>>the first attack.  The US might not get behind getting into the war if
>>we weren't seriously provoked, and  an unsuccessful or  only partially
>>successful attack on Pearl Harbor might not do it.
>>
>>My informants tell me he was  fairly satisfied with  the result.  Note
>>that he and the navy top brass made sure the carriers were out of town
>>when the shit hit the fan - it's not like he was expecting to give the
>>whole store away.
>
>   This is what even the armchair historians call "unsubstantiated innuendo."
>Not to mention insulting to "you guys" (may I presume that I am included in
>this illustrious group?).  No doubt "you guys" refers to those dolts who
>have wasted time studying the history of the subject.
>
>   -- David desJardins

What a recall as being publicly acknowledged was that the Japanese codes
used to transmit the orders for the attack on Pearl Harbor had been broken
or compromised well before the attack, and that Japanese radio traffic was
monitored.  The carriers were ordered out of Pearl, but no alarm was given.
Innuendo, certainly, but it's not entirely unsubstantiated.

						Baba