Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbatt!ihnp4!ihlpg!tan From: tan@ihlpg.UUCP (Bill Tanenbaum) Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,net.med Subject: Re: Drug Abuse - True Problem or Media Hype? Message-ID: <2539@ihlpg.UUCP> Date: Wed, 8-Oct-86 02:33:52 EDT Article-I.D.: ihlpg.2539 Posted: Wed Oct 8 02:33:52 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 9-Oct-86 05:29:08 EDT References: <720@scc.UUCP> <20756@rochester.ARPA> <463@epimass.UUCP> <2519@ihlpg.UUCP> <21340@rochester.ARPA> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 39 Xref: watmath talk.politics.misc:580 net.med:5104 > In article <2519@ihlpg.UUCP>, tan@ihlpg.UUCP (Bill Tanenbaum) writes: > > There may be some drugs which, by their > > very nature, make it impossible for the heavy user to hold a job, ^^^^^^^^ > > but heroin and cocaine are not among them. ----- > Heroin and cocaine are among them, especially in heavy cocaine use causing > impaired mental capacities. > ray [frank] -- Oh, come on, Ray. No doubt some percentage of heavy heroin and cocaine users cannot hold jobs, but many do. Ray, you are saying that NO heavy users hold jobs. Ha. Ha. I'm sure that, given your sense of values, you are not a heavy cocaine user. Your impairment must come from something else. I don't know why I got involved in this debate, anyway, since I am not even sure which side I am on. The benefits of the decriminalization of drug use are obvious to anybody who has given the matter any thought - an enormous reduction in violent crime and official corruption, and some sort of quality control on the product. The costs of decriminalization are simply that when drugs are cheap and legal (i.e. alcohol and tobacco), more people will tend to use them. I'm aware that the heavy use of alcohol and tobacco is historically ingrained and not merely a result of their legality. However, the social costs of having still more drugs so deeply ingrained would be enormous. I don't give the "replacement" argument much credence. Marijuana will not replace alcohol. In general, people who use drug X are more likely to use drug Y than those who do not use drug X, for almost any X and Y. I think that the fact that the legal drugs are so much more costly to society than the illegal ones is a strong argument for keeping most illegal drugs illegal. The only fear that I have about this is that in the periodic bouts of anti-drug hysteria (such as the present one) we will lose permanently some of our precious freedoms. I would rather have drugs sold openly in candy stores than have that happen. -- Bill Tanenbaum - AT&T Bell Labs - Naperville IL ihnp4!ihlpg!tan