Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!husc6!think!nike!lll-crg!lll-lcc!qantel!ihnp4!ihlpa!gadfly From: gadfly@ihlpa.UUCP (Gadfly) Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc Subject: Re: making things up Message-ID: <1955@ihlpa.UUCP> Date: Fri, 3-Oct-86 14:39:45 EDT Article-I.D.: ihlpa.1955 Posted: Fri Oct 3 14:39:45 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Oct-86 09:17:29 EDT References: <8579@duke.duke.UUCP> <1047@frog.UUCP> <15757@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <1056@frog.UUCP> <15875@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 36 -- > >I can't comment at the moment except on Oppenheimer. He was fingered > >*not* by McCarthy but by the AEC and the FBI, back when McCarthy was > >still a Marine, for not reporting a contact with a Soviet agent. I > >was told by a man who claimed he had a chance to look at the Top > >Secret evidence on Oppenheimer that (trusting to his memory) > > > >- Oppenheimer's brother was a known card-carrier. > > This is so, but SO WHAT. > Do we convict people on the basis of their brothers' beliefs. > > >- The evidence on Oppenheimer was conclusive. > > Really? Not according to "Security on Trial", by Philip Stern and > Harold Greene. Mr. Greene was one of the government officials > in charge of preparing the evidence against Oppenheimer. So you want to know about Oppenheimer? Oppenheimer was a cousin of mine--well, by marriage (his wife Kitty was my cousin). And that marriage was his only possible link to CPUSA. Kitty's first husband was Joe Dallett, a commissar (the 1st, I think) of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade who died fighting the fascists in Spain. He was a Communist and proud of it. Even after he died and she remarried, Kitty hung out with his old circle of friends. So there were often commies in the house. And as mentioned, his brother Frank had joined the Party. This makes a man guilty? Of what? I'll tell you that too--he stood in the way (in terms of scientific stature) of fascist-to-this-day "Dr. Strangelove", Edward Teller. -- *** *** JE MAINTIENDRAI ***** ***** ****** ****** 03 Oct 86 [12 Vendemiaire An CXCV] ken perlow ***** ***** (312)979-8042 ** ** ** ** ihnp4!ihlpa!gadfly *** *** <== NOTE NEW ADDRESS!