Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!husc6!panda!genrad!decvax!ucbvax!ernie.Berkeley.EDU!ashcroft From: ashcroft@ernie.Berkeley.EDU (Dazed and Confused) Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc Subject: Re: South Africa Terrorizes Southern Africa Message-ID: <16112@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Sun, 12-Oct-86 13:51:17 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.16112 Posted: Sun Oct 12 13:51:17 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 16-Oct-86 07:24:07 EDT References: <8556@duke.duke.UUCP> <117200040@inmet> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: ashcroft@ernie.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Dazed and Confused) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 38 Keywords: Israel and South Africa In article <1255@mit-trillian.MIT.EDU> martillo@trillian.UUCP (Yakim Martillo) writes: > >As for Ashcroft he has already proven his antiSemitism in previous >articles. This article shows his basic ignorant Western chauvinism. >Very few religions have incorporated contempt for non-believers into >fundamental principles. Christianity and Islam may be unique. >Neither Judaism, nor Hinduism, nor Buddhism, nor Daoism, nor Greek >paganism nor Roman paganism has doctrines requiring the humiliation of >non-Believers. Since Ashcroft as an ignoramus only knows a little >about Christianity, he assumes that all other belief systems are >similar. mmmm... lesseee now... Hindus (traditional) consider non hindus unclean, the Romans had Xtians eaten, the Greeks considered non-Greeks to be Barbarians (origin of the word) the Biblical jews seem to have had a fun time wiping out the philistines. The Sinhalese Buddhists are gleefully wiping out the Hindu Tamils (of course this might JUST be plain racism...). Actually the one case of fairly peaceful coexistence of religions that I can think of (I mean in history) is in India where the Mughals ruled over the Hindus. Of course this disintegrated later at the end of the British Raj. And now the Hindus are killing the Bangladeshi refugees (Muslim) in Assam - the Hindus also are fighting the Sikhs. Face it Martillo - Most religious groups will vigorously persecute any minority groups in their midst.... Actually Martillo I know not even a little Christianity... The west is only different in that we have over time been able to throw off the shackles of the religious organizations that previously ran our lives. Before we brought the Christian churches to heel they didn't just extort or humiliate nonbelievers they killed them. And if you ever listen to an evangelist you know that given half a chance they would gladly do so in the future. I am not antisemitic. Tarring with that brush is a nasty and effective way of slandering someone but I won't let it stick.