Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!think!nike!lll-crg!lll-lcc!styx!mcb From: mcb@styx.UUCP (Michael C. Berch) Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc Subject: Re: More Economic Heresy Message-ID: <20907@styx.UUCP> Date: Tue, 14-Oct-86 00:30:07 EDT Article-I.D.: styx.20907 Posted: Tue Oct 14 00:30:07 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 16-Oct-86 08:02:44 EDT References: <1204@mit-trillian.MIT.EDU> <3660@umcp-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: mcb@styx.UUCP (Michael C. Berch) Organization: Lawrence Livermore Laboratory, Livermore CA Lines: 29 In article <3660@umcp-cs.UUCP> mangoe@umcp-cs.UUCP (Charley Wingate) writes: > [...] There is a very deep problem with this sort of [libertarian] > attitude; it is that it is simultaneously a free and a > totalitarian doctrine, and therefore virtually guarantees revolution. It's > freedom is well-espoused. It's totalitarian aspect, however, derives from > the fact that demands certain ways of thinking, at the expense of any > dissent. It therefore is an ideological solution and not a political > solution. Marxism is essentially the economic argument against this sort of > government; a libertarian government would be therefore uniquely vulnerable > to Marxism, especially since the government would have to refuse to project > the workers against the wealthy. I think not, and believe that a libertarian society would be much less prone to revolution and more tolerant of social and economic experimentation. I think Mr. Wingate fails to apprehend what FREEDOM really means: under a libertarian system, people would be perfectly free to set up socialist subeconomies by mutual consent and if done without coercion. Workers unsatisfied with their employers could freely organize, strike, organize boycotts, or raise capital and buy out their employer and run the business as a cooperative, collective, or under whatever bizarre profit-sharing method they may devise by way of contract. A libertarian economy is best viewed as a pluralistic system; in the macro sense it is inherently free-market capitalism, but in a micro sense it can be whatever its members decide to cook up and agree to. Michael C. Berch ARPA: mcb@lll-tis-b.ARPA UUCP: {ihnp4,dual,sun}!lll-lcc!styx!mcb