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From: padraig@utastro.UUCP (Padraig Houlahan)
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Subject: Re: Praying to the Father; thoughts on the Holy Spirit & the Trinity
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Date: Sun, 21-Sep-86 15:33:18 EDT
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In article <256@prometheus.UUCP>, pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M Koloc) writes:
> 
> The problem with understanding how three can be one is that science 
> has not yet found the cosmology to explain it. 

This is not a problem for science. 3 feet is 1 yard not 3 yards; the
only way 3 can "be" 1 is to write 3X = 1Y and note that X != Y where X and Y
are different classes (omitting X=Y=0 case). You are just "squaring the circle"
when you try to have X=Y != 0.

Actually the posting is quite instructive. It is a classic example of 
the confusion, frequently exhibited by pseudo-scientists, as to what 
constitutes an "explanation". In this gem, the unexplained is introduced
as exotic unsubstantiated assertions and definitions, in order to explain
that which is unexplained.

> GOD (The Father) 
> exists only in one dimensional space and he fills it infinitely.

 -Assertion /Definition

> Angels (and our souls) exist in two dimensional space and occupy
> a space of area.  

 -Assertion /Definition

>... Now GOD can extend HIMSELF into the second and third dimensional space,
> while still maintaining HIS EXISTENCE in One Space.

 -Assertion /Definition

> To extend in this way HE actually takes 
> on substance in those two other domains. 

 -Assertion /Definition

> That substance in our space is matter and in two space is hypermatter. 

 -Definition

> But as much as we are one being which includes a hypermatter soul and a 
> matter body GOD too is ONE.

 -Assertion

>...   This is a GRAND thing for GOD to do since,
> otherwise,  we would be deprived of DIRECT contact with GOD, since 
> we can only respond to substance of our own type. 

 -Assertion

Introducing 7 unexplained assertions/definitions to explain away your
pet irrationalities, that you don't understand, just doesn't cut it.

Padraig Houlahan.