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From: cc100jr@gitpyr.UUCP (Joel Rives)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: one more time... (circular reasoning sure is popular!)
Message-ID: <2267@gitpyr.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 19-Sep-86 12:03:36 EDT
Article-I.D.: gitpyr.2267
Posted: Fri Sep 19 12:03:36 1986
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Reply-To: cc100jr@gitpyr.UUCP (Joel Rives)
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In article <223@octopus.UUCP> pete@octopus.UUCP (Pete Holzmann) writes:
>In article <1146@cybvax0.UUCP> mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) writes:
>>
>>We don't know Christ's opinion.  Because he's dead, and all we have are
>                        ^^^^^^^ we know what He *said*. Does that not count?

You seem to have totally missed the point here Pete. What Mike stated (excuse
me for paraphrasing you Mike) was that we don't know Jesus's opinion 
because we don't know what he said. The only evidence that Jesus even said
anything worth noting is in the New Testament and that is hearsay at best. 
Because the bible says that Jesus said one thing or another does not prove
anything of the sort. 

This sort of falacy seems to crop up over and over. Let me present to you
an example of your own approach using another religion. According to the 
Baghavad Gita, the God Krishna came to earth in the form of a man (sound
familiar?). This God/Man came to be the chariot driver for Prince Arjuna
at a time when Arjuna was at civil war with another who challenged Arjuna's
right to the throne. Much of the body of the Gita is in the form of 
conversation between Arjuna and the God become man. Now, I may claim this
writing to be the gospel and every word of it the absolute truth - much as
CHristians do with their book. Are you going to believe me when I tell you
everything in this book is fact? Why not? It says it right there in the 
Bhagavad Gita - the word of God. 

>>> to make. But to try to water down the bible until it looks like every other
>>> religion out there is to do a grave injustice.
>>
>>It does look like every other religion out there.
>
>Really? Why do you then admit...
>
>>> There is only one unique
>>> thing about the Bible/Christianity that makes it any different than other
>>> religions: Jesus.
>
>>See?  You admit it yourself.
>
>As do you. I'm glad we agree that Jesus is unique, which makes Christianity 
>unique! (:-) I know I'm jumping to conclusions... I'm sure I haven't convinced
>you of much...)
>

Every religion has a founder. So what? That certainly makes each religion 
unique. This form of uniqueness is hardly notable. 


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                                               Joel Rives
                                               gatech!gitpyr!cc100jr

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