Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!lll-lcc!qantel!hplabs!felix!scgvaxd!trwrb!gibson From: gibson@trwrb.UUCP (Gregory S. Gibson) Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc Subject: Re: Rowing through the fog Message-ID: <1309@trwrb.UUCP> Date: Fri, 19-Sep-86 16:48:59 EDT Article-I.D.: trwrb.1309 Posted: Fri Sep 19 16:48:59 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Sep-86 23:46:26 EDT References: <1308@drutx.UUCP> <711@nrcvax.UUCP> Reply-To: gibson@trwrb.UUCP (Gregory S. Gibson) Organization: TRW EDS, Redondo Beach, CA Lines: 19 >>>> Christ's sacrafice wasn't His life-- it was going through the pain of >>>> death. And crucifixion is a *very* painful death indeed. >> > >The way I see it the real pain involved here, the real sacrifice, was >Jesus Christ taking upon himself the sins of the world. That means >yours, mine, and every other human being who ever walked the face of Not true. Jesus Christ died on the cross because he didn't have the power to prevent the Romans from crucifing him. This "sacrafice" ideal was created to "cover" up his dishonable death. The "resurrection" theory is part of the same "cover" up. Of course, I don't expect you to believe me. Sacrifice to open the "Gates of Heaven" or for the sins of others makes little sense. Every individual must answer for his/hers own sins. I can not answer for my brother's sins. Why would God NEED/require such a sacrifice? Greg